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May I propose a get together / beach BBQ on the Deben?
On Sunday 6th May up river from Ramsholt on the southern shore in a reach called The Rocks.
I understand from Sailorman that this is a sandy beach.
We could always adjourn later to the Ramsholt Arms for further sustenance.
Tides for Saturday and Sunday at the river entrance are:
07:32 0.7m
13:58 3.2m
19:51 0.6m
02:02 3.1m
08:07 0.8m
14:32 3.1m
20:29 0.6m
All times BST.
Would be a good time for an Ostende trip planning meeting.
Planning ????????????
wot planning /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Oh yes /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif running short
You know; planning!
It's what proper sailors do (or so I've been told).
Only vaguely remember it.
Not everyone sails to Ostend blindfold with only Robert's voice and the smell of Duvel to guide them.
Tides are good - why not?
Sounds like a plan.
Is this really a sandy beach?
would i be safe sitting at anchor overnight?
Need a couple of metres to ensure no grounding.
I dont possess a tender so any jollies off to the Ramsholt and ashore would require a lift.
FullCircle
28-03-07, 10:49
Blimey thats flash Doug, having a lift fitted to your boat! Is that to take you from the Bridgedeck down to the Transom Platform? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Mind you, as you now draw 2m apparently, I suppose you have swapped Still Dunno for a Leander class Frigate?
Yes you would be fine anchoring there. It is one of the best anchorages on the Deben. If you had an eight foot draft you would still be OK. Strikes me that you'll have to be especially nice to your friends if you want to go ashore!
getting over the deben bar is more of a problem for your 8-foot draught - ckheck the eastcoastrivers.com website re entrance.
The Rocks are named for the hard grounding on the beach side (not especially rocky - more mini-me rocks) but all else is glorious mud. Any fear of touching move to the opposite bank. If it's blowing hard the beach under the trees is usually calmest but it's never a hard place to be.
I was thinking of the size of wellies you might need to play international rescue to the rescue craft /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
2M cos i dont want to get any damage to the very expensive stainless steel that hangs underneath the transom /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
as for the lift.....I will show you Dougs patented method of descending to the cabin from the cockpit when you come on board. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Might you be attending this jollie in May? /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
FullCircle
28-03-07, 14:08
We are unsure at the mo, due to the extensive preparations for the East Coasts' premier social event (Hello! are booked) in June.
could well be there any moorings available @ the Rocks ( its awfully muddy on the East Coast ) /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Phoenix of Hamble
29-03-07, 11:12
Probably.... don't know what the social events organiser (SWMBO) has got arranged yet... but sounds promising....
Phoenix of Hamble
19-04-07, 10:20
we're in.....
Gather we may have visitors of the T25 variety using one of our berths.....
They'll need to start thinking about what compensation they'll be offering C, as she'll now need to share a berth with M, her younger brother..... a major sacrifice... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
That will of course be dependant on the weather and it may be possible for them to be accomodated elsewhere.
its just a bit cosy on a 30' mobo with few berths
which days are planned for arrival and departure?
sat - sun
or sun - mon
Phoenix of Hamble
19-04-07, 11:29
Not got that far yet Doug.....
Definitely a Monday departure, so probably a Sun arrival, but still might go for Sat arrival..... TBA
Berths wise, plenty of space for Mr and Mrs T25, who have been advised as such..... so no problem there if needed.... just keep me advised!
Does anyone know if there are likely to be children at this meet ??
Phoenix of Hamble
19-04-07, 16:14
well our two will be there..... aged 8 (boy) and 11 (girl)....
They are planning a full on assault on the mud bank alongside the rocks as we speak...... i'm working out how to fix the transom shower at the same time....
I would imagine Guapa will be bringing his kids along as well..... similar ages/slightly older...
J.B will hope to be there assuming we get re-launched nxt week /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif.
childern not comming /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
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Thank God for that /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Many thanks from both self and Louise as we are both looking forward to the trip , Neil , I'm sure they won't mind shifting along as long as I don't nick ice creams , and a suitable bottle ( or two ) will be stashed in newly purchased tote bags , hopefully it'll work out well but I have a meeting with a representative of Plastimo that I'd be a fool to miss , so shall advise all by PM phone or e mail , as appropriate
Site survey carried out today whilst testing our "new" dinghy. No.32.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clive.grounds/CSG-pic/beach1.jpg
The beach
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clive.grounds/CSG-pic/beach2.jpg
The anchorage
These where taken at about half tide (about 2m above chart datum)
As I have an appointment on Friday which I cannot alter my plan is to join the merry band on Sunday lunchtime and return to Lowestoft on Monday afternoon.
Have informed potential crew accordingly and hope this will meet with the intentions of others.
Please do tell if we shall be arriving at an empty anchorage /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Phoenix of Hamble
23-04-07, 13:39
Nope, we'll probably be heading over Sunday during the day too.....
Maybe Saturday as well if the weather is particularly nice though.....
I understand that on a nice Saturday evening upto 40 boats have been anchored in the area.
On Sunday there were about 6 yachts and 1 Mobo (the only 1 displaying an Anchor ball) at anchor.
See the 2nd of my photos above.
They were all on the beach (South) side of the channel.
The best holding is said to be on the North side of the channel.
If it is crowded we can always raft up on some of the larger craft in our group. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
I you want a quieter night you can always drop down to Ramsholt and see if George can find you a spare mooring.
Just testing a Photobucket account.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t44/CliveG/beach3.jpg
Another picture of the beach from the anchoring area.
What
This is a bring your own BBQ.
We will have a reasonable size BBQ and some charcoal.
It will not be big enough fro every one to cook on at once.
So bring your own BBQ or Q to use ours.
When
Should this be a lunch time BBQ or an early evening do that sort of extends into an evening do?
With High tide around 2.30 p.m. there may not be a lot of beach at lunch time
We may go out for a day sail and be back at the rocks for say 4 p.m.
What are your thoughts.
what-ever suits us. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
wot anchor is best for the occation /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
If you don't know which mud hook to use in this area there is no hope for the rest of us.
I would use the one that stops JB from drifting away.
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her botty is now sooooo smoooooooooooooth will need a heavy one /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
you might organise a " Fossil" Hunt loadsa sharks teeth @ the rocks will keep Kinder happy /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Phoenix of Hamble
26-04-07, 21:37
Evening makes more sense.... lunch is a PITA as we'll come into the river an hour or so before HW, so might not be at the Rocks until early afternoon, say 14h30 ish.... any earlier would mean us coming in on the full flood, and with less water at the entrance...
After overdosing on the recent spate of anchor threads, I am going to try the latest technique.... so apologies if it takes us a while, but we will be setting 11 different anchors in a Bahamian Forked Triangular Fore-and Aft Reverse Tandem set up, on 275m of 1" chain with a further 110m of 26.5mm Octoplait with a rubber/nylon combination snubbing system. I believe this is optimum for the Deben conditions.
Roger, for you, I suggest an empty beer crate would make a good anchor.... any on board this soon after launch? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
due to the slippery botty, now a "Dry Ship" i am certainly NOT /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gifdrinking a Leffe Blonde as i type /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
beancounter
26-04-07, 21:51
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we will be setting 11 different anchors in a Bahamian Forked Triangular Fore-and Aft Reverse Tandem set up, on 275m of 1" chain with a further 110m of 26.5mm Octoplait with a rubber/nylon combination snubbing system. I believe this is optimum for the Deben conditions.
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we'll just raft up to you.....
Phoenix of Hamble
26-04-07, 21:54
You may need long lines, as we'll be 18" higher out of the water after we've dumped that lot over the side....
beancounter
26-04-07, 21:56
Good - the booze will flow downhill /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
FullCircle
26-04-07, 21:57
Can I anchor using my tri-point keel rudder grounding combo, with enhanced truck tyre concrete ring, with 40 meters of chain nicked from Felixstowe, with a riser obtained from the Royal Navy Tug O War team, and a 5" diameter mooring buoy on 4mm string with "Fark Orf, No Mooring" written in black marker pen.
I vote for evening as well, as I have get there from Burnham, which is a fair distance, so I am told. I am hoping for an Onshore F6 entrance at LW+2 hours, so stand by with the Pentax on the beach as I come in, for some spectacular shots.
Well I hope you don't foul our anchor on the turn of the tide.
We would not want you having to leave your anchor and chain with us and find a mooring elsewhere!
Phoenix of Hamble
26-04-07, 22:06
hee hee....
with that lot out, there will be no 'turn of the tide'.... I believe the correct technical term is 'dam' /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
beancounter
26-04-07, 22:14
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, so stand by with the Pentax on the beach as I come in, for some spectacular shots.
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going to to do the East Coast equivalent of the famous Beken "Silk" shot are you...?
FullCircle
26-04-07, 22:16
More like Hawaii Five O John.....
beancounter
26-04-07, 22:18
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More like Hawaii Five O
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I'm sure you'll cut a dashing figure in your shorts'n'shades...
Phoenix of Hamble
26-04-07, 22:20
but not so sure about the hawaiian shirt.....
beancounter
26-04-07, 22:21
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but not so sure about the hawaiian shirt.....
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FullCircle
26-04-07, 22:33
<<I'm sure you'll cut a dashing figure in your shorts'n'shades...>>.
Shorts are for Wimps /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/jimdew/P1010119-1.jpg
beancounter
26-04-07, 22:39
A new meaning to "bareboat"...
Oh my god, and I was going to bring the children !
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Phoenix of Hamble
26-04-07, 23:40
Glad you've seen fit to keep your deckies on.... /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
BUT WOT is HE STEERING WITH ( porkoswordohelm ) /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
I'm shocked, I didn't think this was THAT type of forum! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Phoenix of Hamble
27-04-07, 07:59
heh... it could be worse.... he could have a tiller!!! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
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Where's that "notify moderator" button? /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
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When
Should this be a lunch time BBQ or an early evening do that sort of extends into an evening do?
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Also whith regards to when - Saturday or Sunday?
Sunday is the plan.
I understand that some may appear on the Saturday.
For those that do come into the Deben on the Saturday there is a possibility that they could find a swinging mooring at Ramsholt.
Can't promise this.
Let me or Sailorman know if this is you intention and one of us will have a word with George the Harbour Mater.
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That's us out then - working Monday /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Sorry to hear that.
We will be on the mooring at Ramsholt on Saturday night.
You would be welcome to join us if you want.
We will most likely adjourn to the Ramsholt Arms for a meal.
Will confer with sailorman this WE over a couple of taxpayer supplied beers.
FullCircle
30-04-07, 21:00
Unfortunately, due to circumstances that were once under my control, but now are not, due to my vapidity, Full Circle will be unable to travel this weekend, and it is with regret that we must inform the Forum that we will not be at the meet.
Boo Hoo.
Never mind, I am sure there will be other occasions.
Have a lovely weekend
Jim
Sorry to hear that.
I am sure that if you and Lynn wanted to join in via an over land route, water transport could be arranged from Ramsholt or another pickup point.
Some one may also be able to offer accommodation.
Hey, that's a picture of my boat with the orange tender on the end at the Rocks.
You had a bbq next to us last sunday with your kids I think. Our dogs kept annoying you (sorry), but he recently saved my life so he's in the good books.
Any concerns about anchoring go to the other side of the river - west side - deep soft mud.
40 boats is quite full for the Rocks but often half leave early evening. Usually there's more like 10. Or on sunday nights just 1 or 2 lucky ones.
Your dogs where not annoying us as we only visited for a short while in the dinghy.
Sirenia is still at home.
We launch on Saturday at Robinson's in Woodbridge.
I didn't realise that you where a forumite.
Did not spot a YBW Forum flag.
Will you be around for the meet this Sunday p.m.?
Apologies have been proferred to appropriate forumites for changes to my plans but although I shall be attending I have been offered accomodation on another boat that doesn't result in anyone being kicked out of their bunk , a group of about a dozen of us will be at Wolverstone marina on Sunday and intend to attempt to get to the meeting onboard a former forumites boat , although he's a little wary of the depths so if we don't make it we'll be hiding in Wolverstone if anyone fancies showing him how it's done /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Phoenix of Hamble
01-05-07, 20:46
Tell him that this time, I expect something more spectacular than fairy lights if he follows my navigation notes.... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
We fancy a bit of a day sail.
We should be able to slip over the Deben Bar by about 11:00.
Would be happy to meet off Felixstowe somewhere and show the way in.
High tide over the bar on Sunday is about 14:30 with a good 3m of water.
PM me some contact details and we can talk.
Clive.
I shall pass the message Neil /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Clive , PM sent but it could be a problem as this is his boat /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif with me at the helm /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I wish /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c359/trevera25/01-1.jpg
Who's your lady friend?
SWIMBO and her sister?
Mother in law is on the foredeck , and good lady wife next to me /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Neil , don't you dare tell her I said that /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I don't think that Sirenia could quite stay ahead of him.
And that is if he promises not to open the throttle and leaves one engine turned off.
Have a look at EastCoastRivers (http://www.eastcoastrivers.co.uk/) web site and download the entrance details for the Deben.
This is based on a survey at the end of March this year so it should be o.k.
Clive
Already downloaded thanks , and he insists that the pic IS on tickover
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Reply from himself
Tell him I am not undercover any more, so I can have the big stuff on now /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I don't think he had a problem finding me last time in the river twiddle /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
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Work has dealt the final death blow to our plans to come on our first trip which is a great shame. I work on large industrial machinery and when they stop for annual maintenance/repair, the owners have no choice other than to say "jump", and the suppliers likewise have to say "how high". Needless to say, stop times can change last minute, as they have done. Oostende is out as Pipedream will be in Newcastle (only long slot for many months to get a pre-Jester run in), but we will get to a meet as soon as we can. Have a great time this weekend and look forward to the pictures and report !!!
Phoenix of Hamble
03-05-07, 09:51
Clive,
Weather permitting, and subject to successful launch of new boat on Friday, Emjaytoo is also now joining us....
Simonjk's forcast is not looking good for Sunday.
See here (http://www.ybw.com/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1438118/an/0/page/0#1438118)
Better pack a Big Brolly or relocate to the Ramsholt Arms.
Lets see how things pan out.
Phoenix of Hamble
03-05-07, 17:50
Clive,
We can always find a way of socialising without the beach!
Of bigger concern to me will be keeping a close eye on the forecast for Sun/Mon with regards to the bar.... forecast for tommorrow and Sat is strongish North Easterly winds (F5+), so could be a reasonable swell coming down the North sea by Saturday evening... if it remains breezy on Sunday, the bar might not look very appealing... although I believe the current forecast suggest a swing to the west....
Will monitor carefully!
SimonJK has the winds going SW to W 4 to 5 & 5 to 6 Sunday / Monday.
As you say we will keep an eye on it.
Typical of the weather to break on a bank holiday weekend.
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The Deben bar is not normally a problem in strong winds from the West. I came in last year in a strong 6 Westerly which was a 7 at Languard Point (according to Port Control). I had come out of Shotley and conditions going across the Stour, around Harwich, were lively but after that OK. I consider SE to be the worst direction closely followed by E. If in doubt only enter/leave near the top of the tide, but probably not if SE or E and much above force 5.
THe Forcast by Metcheck (http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/HOBBIES/inshore_forecast.asp?locationID=1041) for Harwich is not bad at all.
I think we will go with that /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
FullCircle
04-05-07, 21:43
Quite right you wimps. Get on with it. Bit of rain never hurt anyone. Hah!
Alternative venue should it get a tad bad weather wise
http://www.mdlmarinas.co.uk/marinas/woolverstone/find_us.php
Still hoping to pop up and see all from here but if anyone wonders where I am if I don't make it /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif I'll be in there somewhere close to the big noisy boat with gallons of booze sliding down nicely /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Quite - there's no such thing as bad weather, only bad clothes.
Or in your case, no clothes /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Here we sit on our mooring at Ramsholt.
We have been up to The Rocks.
No one there.
Sailorman and Guapa where here this morning as we went for a sail.
Went round to Harwich to find the Neil in Morgana had decided that with the forecast 6 to 7 he did not want to get stuck up the Deben.
He was waiting to lock back into Shotley when we got to him.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t44/CliveG/morgana.jpg
We had a grand sail back to Ramsholt.
Surfing at 7.7 Knots at one stage.
Sailorman and Guapa had both left when we got back.
We will meet up again soon chaps.
Phoenix of Hamble
06-05-07, 20:46
Yes, sorry about that Clive...
The weather conspired against your plans a little.... if it had been a bit warmer, and not threatening to rain, we might have risked it.... but with it being chilly, and pretty breezy, it seemed that a bottle of wine and a quiet night on our berth seemed the more appealing option...
PS, Sirenia was looking grand in her new colours!
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r8/kalik44_guapa/Ramsholt.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r8/kalik44_guapa/Guapa-DebenSunset.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r8/kalik44_guapa/Deben-spookysky.jpg
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N°1 child mobile phone pics.
Aside: any-one eaten at the Ramsholt Arms lately?
What did you think?
Do they use a flavour extractor? Or is there really such bland food?
I can microwave better (and cheaper) food, and I would remember to defrost is properly. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Hi Clive we went back due to the **** forecast.
we had a fine sail ( beat ) back to Harwich max wind 23 kts true, stormed into the Orwell @ 7.8 kts.
cooked the burgers o/b the went to the Ostrich ( Foxs canteen wuz shut /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif) another facility on the wane /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
Good to see you.
Good photos from a mobile phone.
Sorry you did not enjoy you meal.
We had a meal at the Ramsholt Arms as well on Saturday.
We enjoyed it.
The had the pate & Fishcake starters and Ham & Eggs, and Bass main course.
The Adnams and the local cyder also slipped down well.
Glad to hear you enjoyed your meal.
My ham, egg & chips was OK - I mean, how can you [--word removed--] that up?
So were Yanni's chicken nuggets - same again.
The wife's "shrimp & salmon salad" was not fit for human consumption.
Mushy shrimp and still half frozen salmon.
The eldest's chili - same story. The only thing that tasted like anything were the nachos. Rice still "crunchy".
You know you're not in for "haute cuisine" when your food arrives within 4 minutes of ordering. I was still at the bar waiting for the drinks.
Hadn't eaten there before - won't do it again.
wot was the cost, its not cheap there
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No, it wasn't - £36.95
The four meals, two cokes, one water, one Adnams.
Phoenix of Hamble
07-05-07, 19:08
Yes, now returned to base, and also, apologies Clive.... the foul forecast also sent us scurrying back to base... which as it happens was probably sensible.... not only did we measure 23kts in the Orwell, but it thrashed it down from early hours Monday......
Next time!
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Hi Clive
Sorry to hear it didn't quite work out , when you didn't call I thought it was all going well and he who shall not be named had had a rough trip from Burnham so didn't fancy going any further .
As posted elsewhere , you couldn't exactly miss the boat though
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c359/trevera25/SBC%20Meet%20060507%20Woolverstone/tn_EastCoastMeetingMarch2007003-1.jpg
although I think the drink took its toll on some
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c359/trevera25/SBC%20Meet%20060507%20Woolverstone/tn_sbc003.jpg
and yes , the drinks did go with us to the barbeque site
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a collection of some of the motley crew that made it
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c359/trevera25/SBC%20Meet%20060507%20Woolverstone/tn_sbc001.jpg
all in all an enjoyable time was had by some and you'd have been more than welcome
Himself set off this morning as we waved him away , did a 360 on a penny just to show me he could , then headed out , hit it rough all the way round then it got worse in the Thames estuary , but with good lady at the helm most of the way he made it in . Glad we didn't go out though , he was soaked when he arrived on sunday and it was worse on the return
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