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Martini
07-08-02, 11:48
having a weee debate with the lads when a question came up that not one could give a positive answer.

What is the difference between a boat and a ship, or when does a boat become a ship?????????????

Anyone out there that could help?

thanks

ccscott49
07-08-02, 12:10
Very difficult question, the old nomenclature, was for sailing ships/boats, a fully rigged ship had to have three or more masts and had to be square rigged on all of them, although they could also have a fore and aft sail on the after mast, aswell as square rigged ones. Barques, barquentines, brig, brigantine, schooners, topsl' schooners, clippers (although they were mainly ships) etc. But all that has gone now. (well not quite) As for size, it doesn't mean much, as some big ships are called supply boats, and some very big ships are also called yachts. You also have cruise liners and cruise ships, a tug is often called a boat, but some ocean going tugs are big! Are you getting the jist of all this? Some very small boats are called ships, as Dunkirk little ships etc. The navy, of course will have it's own definitions, frigates and above ships and anything else below boats, who knows, I'm sure somebody here will!! So as a difinitive answer, I will have to bow to superior knowledge on this, I'm sure there is a nomenclature laid down somewhere, but I don't know it.

Caronia
07-08-02, 12:12
s'easy .. mine is a ship, yours is a boat

ccscott49
07-08-02, 12:28
This means war!!! Bosun! Fetch me cutlass! Bring er' into the wind a hairs breadth! blast yer' eyes!!!

Caronia
07-08-02, 12:44
oh oh! Furniture and livestock in boats, dowse the galley fire, run out offshore flare pack.

Viking
07-08-02, 12:47
I thought the answer was. A 'ship' can carry a 'boat' ie lifeboat(s). But a 'boat' cant carry a 'ship'

ccscott49
07-08-02, 13:17
Right! Prime all cannon, run out the caronades! Get those balls on to the monkeys and clear away all the hammocks, nets up into the riggin' prepare for action, get the marines out on deck and into the riggin' t'gallants only! Powder monkeys into felt shoes! Double shot the lower cannon and elevate chain shot the uppers, we'll take im' in one pass! We're ready for im' sir!!!

Martini
07-08-02, 13:19
Great help thanks guys I am looking forward to tonights debate

Fair sailing

Caronia
07-08-02, 13:27
Have just checked your profile .. John Bain eh! .. a little lightweight but perhaps you are a ship after all. Have sent midshipman over in boat with invitation to madeira and sweetmeats.

ccscott49
07-08-02, 13:35
OK, 48 tons, lightweight?? I accept your kind offer, I will reciprocate later with the offer of an invitation to port in the captains day room. I'll send my gig!

Trevethan
07-08-02, 14:19
Oh dear.. its time to call the nurse and up their medication... the old folks are reliving the battle of the Nile again.

*heehee*

ccscott49
07-08-02, 14:57
Oh Yes please! more drugs, more drugs teeee heeeeee

charles_reed
07-08-02, 15:28
Leaving aside the gamesmanship.

A ship has more than two decks above the waterline.

Hence a submarine is always a boat.

ccscott49
07-08-02, 15:33
So has Englander, now you've done it, she's a ship, I've been telling people that!! Mind you does that mean I have to fulfil another set of regulations, Oh! bugger!

ToMo
07-08-02, 18:44
Aren't all British submarines called HMS -------?
HMS being 'Her Majesty's Ship'

TôMö

jimd
07-08-02, 19:55
Try HMS/M

ToMo
07-08-02, 20:52
Yeh well I use to hunt the buggers on Shacks then Nimrods...I never wanted to find out there first names, and by the way 'we ALWAYS found our target....Oh and before Barry jumps up and down I did a couple of stints on Victor strike bombers too!

TôMö

ccscott49
08-08-02, 07:10
Victor strike bombers!! Bloody hell, you are an old fart, they converted them all to tankers, scrappped the valiant, metal fatigue I believe, left only the vulcan as the strike aircraft, many donkeys years ago, retired them years ago for the F111, which are also all gone now!! Bloody hell! No wonder you like cats!!

ToMo
08-08-02, 20:54
You is a cheeky chappy.......for that you can buy me a 60 birthday pressie! it's next week.

TôMö

chippie
09-08-02, 03:37
Never mind Mr Scott, I'm impressed.

ccscott49
09-08-02, 07:35
60!!! Christ thats ancient, need a cat, so you can get yer' zmmer frame on it! Happy birthday for next week, I'm off here saturday, (morrow) so will be sunning my ample bum on sunday, so might not be around on the forum, so take great care of yerself' have a good one and get ****faced!! I'll buy you a birthday drinl in Ibiza, then drink it for you!! Bye Martin take care mate!
Colin.

ToMo
09-08-02, 13:57
Thanks but reserve it for the Guys who deserve it........there is a lot of them out there!

TôMö

charles_reed
12-08-02, 22:57
Her Majesty's Submersible.

That's the trouble with acronyms

chippie
13-08-02, 10:02
Perhaps they are innacronyms. ;)

ponapay
26-08-02, 00:09
I think it is Her Majesty's Submarine ----