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dylanwinter
10-02-15, 17:09
I have been thinking about sailing jackets for upper middle aged inshore day sailors such as myself

I seldom sail in the really hearty rough stuff and I have a set of pretty good inherited foulies including salopettes for then but by and large when it turns bad I want to be in harbour or at home.

I spend a lot of time up estuaries and on rivers and I want a jacket that is

1/completely waterproof

2/with a decent warm collar and tucked away inside I want a hood that is warm and has enough of a peak to keep the rain and wind out of my eyes - big enough to go over the thinsulate hat

3/I want the pockets to be warm and deep - with a zip up inner one for wallet and glasses

4/I want it to be a bit long - about the length of one of those screwfix yellow jobs so that I can sometimes get through a shower of rain without having to struggle into the saloppettes - which is a bit of a mission for a big bloke in a small boat

5/I want it to be in the sort of muted colours that would allow me to wear it in town without looking like a street sweeper , French Cat racer or lego parking warden

6/no more than one badge or logo if possible - but I would prefer it to be unadorned - no high vis reflectors or any of that nonsense thanks



we used to wear bridge coats - navy blue outside, red quilted liner- warm as toast and looked okay for around town, walking the dog and also daysailing

- they were pretty good

oh yes... and I would like it to cost under £100

any suggestions chaps or are we into moon on a stick mode here.

D

wully1
10-02-15, 18:52
Sorry, can't help. I go inside to steer if it's a bit damp or cold...

titian
10-02-15, 19:02
I was going to suggest Columbia or Paramo but then you said under £100...

ronmarson
10-02-15, 19:39
XM Offshore. £138 from J. Green.
Or £110 from http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/xm-sailing-jacket.
Thats my next one.
Capt. RoN

aslabend
10-02-15, 19:42
Summet like.... http://www.decathlon.co.uk/navistan-inshore-sailing-jacket-mens-black-id_8243003.html

Mudisox
10-02-15, 19:58
Summet like.... http://www.decathlon.co.uk/navistan-inshore-sailing-jacket-mens-black-id_8243003.html


QUECHUA Arpenaz 300 3-in-1 L Rain Jkt


from the same supplier.
seems better and cheaper option.

dylanwinter
10-02-15, 21:54
Summet like.... http://www.decathlon.co.uk/navistan-inshore-sailing-jacket-mens-black-id_8243003.html

that looks pretty good

anyone bought one and used it?

D

westhinder
10-02-15, 22:03
Tribord is quite good. My children have been wearing Tribord sailing stuff for years, it is good value, fit for purpose and more durable than you would expect.
Nearly everyone at The Glenans sailing school wear Tribord, we have found.

colind3782
10-02-15, 22:09
Tribord is quite good. My children have been wearing Tribord sailing stuff for years, it is good value, fit for purpose and more durable than you would expect.
Nearly everyone at The Glenans sailing school wear Tribord, we have found.

+1

Bobc
10-02-15, 23:30
GILL Inshore Warm. It's being made obsolete so there are bargains to be had. Retailed at about £150, but you can get them for about £60-£70 now.

dylanwinter
10-02-15, 23:42
GILL Inshore Warm. It's being made obsolete so there are bargains to be had. Retailed at about £150, but you can get them for about £60-£70 now.

that looks okay

a bit short for what I want

the blouson ones are a bit telly savalas

and I like them long enough to allow me to sit on the edge of something wet without getting my arse wet

the screwfix high vis length if perfect - but I want something a bit warmer and with a better hood and a more subdued colour

johnphilip
10-02-15, 23:51
look at the workwear merchants, not everything is dayglo, although the price seems to increase as soon as they look more civilian. Watch though they are often priced ex VAT.
Eg
http://www.parker-direct.com/variation/B1030036544/-/TK82-Ontario-Jacket,-Sizes-S-XXL

Skipper_Christoph
11-02-15, 09:03
Tribord is quite good. My children have been wearing Tribord sailing stuff for years, it is good value, fit for purpose and more durable than you would expect.
Nearly everyone at The Glenans sailing school wear Tribord, we have found.

+1

Sandy
11-02-15, 09:57
A good old fertiliser bag should do.

dylanwinter
11-02-15, 10:53
A good old fertiliser bag should do.

excellent plan

http://cdn.instructables.com/F0H/RUCQ/2BQEP2824UL/F0HRUCQ2BQEP2824UL.MEDIUM.jpg

Toutvabien
11-02-15, 10:56
I was out cycling just before Christmas when it turned VERY VERY cold. My clothing was not warm enough by a long chalk, so I went in to Sports direct and bought a jacket for £50 that on closer examination is rated at 5000 and is breathable with a separate zip out fleece. I am not sure it would cope with the NW Passage but plenty good enough for a drift up to Paglesham or a Cross Channel trip. Long enough to cover the derrière and available in black that makes wearing it ashore less of a statement. Not used it at sea yet though.

dylanwinter
11-02-15, 14:21
I was out cycling just before Christmas when it turned VERY VERY cold. My clothing was not warm enough by a long chalk, so I went in to Sports direct and bought a jacket for £50 that on closer examination is rated at 5000 and is breathable with a separate zip out fleece. I am not sure it would cope with the NW Passage but plenty good enough for a drift up to Paglesham or a Cross Channel trip. Long enough to cover the derrière and available in black that makes wearing it ashore less of a statement. Not used it at sea yet though.

this might work

http://www.sportsdirect.com/karrimor-pioneer-event-jacket-mens-442009?colcode=44200969

I wanted something a tiny bit longer to cover my sorry arse but I might start lobbying herself

I will go in and have a look around sports direct some more

D

V1701
11-02-15, 14:29
You could have a "trawl" through the fishing jackets on ebay, some are significantly longer than the sailing jackets, and a bit longer again at the back, maybe for sitting on your "creel". Do they still have creels? Here's one:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mens-Trespass-STREAMLINE-Waterproof-Jacket-Fishing-Walking-Hiking-/281072001710?pt=UK_BOI_Packing_Postal_Supplies_Lab els_LE&var=&hash=item41713262ae

Toutvabien
11-02-15, 15:56
this might work

http://www.sportsdirect.com/karrimor-pioneer-event-jacket-mens-442009?colcode=44200969

I wanted something a tiny bit longer to cover my sorry arse but I might start lobbying herself

I will go in and have a look around sports direct some more

D

I am six foot and my Karimor covers my prop forward bottom when cycling and sitting. Quite impressed for the money
http://www.sportsdirect.com/karrimor-3-in-1-jacket-mens--443200?colcode=44320003

doug748
11-02-15, 18:21
Like V1701 I was thinking about floatation jackets. Most are a bit lurid but you might find a large one of these discounted at other stores:

http://www.merseytackle.co.uk/sundridge/sundridge-super-crossflow-flotation-jacket

They are breathable, etc.

Daydream believer
11-02-15, 19:12
Years ago we were heading to the boat for a winter race.
Some of the crews queued for the launch to take us out were all in very flash matching kit
Our owner went loopy when one of our number turned up in ankle length black plastic mac & wellie boots & I turned up in a duffel coat with a rope round it for a belt
"What are you lot trying to do to my image" ----"sorry skip , far too cold for thermal gear , this is duffel coat weather"
He threw his hands in the air & disowned us muttering about " bloody brussel pickers" but we did not get cold

Gwylan
11-02-15, 19:46
this might work

http://www.sportsdirect.com/karrimor-pioneer-event-jacket-mens-442009?colcode=44200969

I wanted something a tiny bit longer to cover my sorry arse but I might start lobbying herself

I will go in and have a look around sports direct some more

D

Have something very similar from Karrimor - a brand of sportsdirect these days.

Cost about half that, on offer.
Is breathable and has handy pockets for phone and wallet as well as warm lined pockets at 'hips' Includes a zip out fleece which is adequate but not stunning. Probably great in the summer, but never sailing wind-proof!
In the cammo green - very suitable in all the weather this winter has produces and frequently too warm with the fleece. Distinctly light on badges and suitably anonymous.

Jamesuk
11-02-15, 19:57
The 28,000 hydrostatic Head of the Tribord Ozean jacket caught my eye. Very impressed and I'm off to check it out.

I'll see if I can do a review of it.

dylanwinter
11-02-15, 20:32
can you move in these fishermens floatation jackets?

D

doug748
11-02-15, 21:43
can you move in these fishermens floatation jackets?

D


They are a bit restrictive but at my age I don't move much anyway.

You need to try one.

aslabend
12-02-15, 14:55
can you move in these fishermens floatation jackets?

D

Trouble with fisherman's floatation jackets is drying them out on a (small) boat after a shitty wet day. Easier to dry multiple thin layers than one big thick one.

robertt
12-02-15, 16:49
The 28,000 hydrostatic Head of the Tribord Ozean jacket caught my eye. Very impressed and I'm off to check it out.

I'll see if I can do a review of it.

This is interesting as I have been thinking about getting a good jacket myself. I looked at this jacket recently, it is £170 though, and I was somewhere in between small and medium so couldn't get a great fit.
I also wondered whether Tribord stuff was budget and therefore less good than the "high end" stuff like Musto or Gill, or whether that's just not true. Most of the stuff is really cheap for what you get but I did feel that if I was paying this sort of price I would feel more reassured by having a well known brand.
Also wondered about the walking/hiking jackets but obviously not designed for sailing per se, no double cuffs etc and whether this meant they were less suitable for sailing?

Tidewaiter2
12-02-15, 17:17
We have successfully used Trax and Buffalo sleeping bags, smocks, jackets and salopettes for some 20+ years, from first using it cruising in Wayfarers right up to our current" journalist's luxury yacht".

The Trax longer parka type one I also have is almost too warm for me, but it is light to wear and dries quickly like all of them. SWMBO has one of her original shirt ones, my original shirt is still used for dog walking by a friend, and it's replacement is still going strong.

Got it on recommendation from fellow W cruisers who were also mountaineers. Tends to be cheaper from mountain gear shops!

http://www.buffalosystems.co.uk/products/
http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/forum/gear/trax-clothing/11657.html
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?721-Trax-Clothing

If total stair rod rain, you can don a cheapo Screwfix/ Millets plastic rain suit over the top, Does the job.

V1701
12-02-15, 17:37
can you move in these fishermens floatation jackets?

D

I think for what you want Dylan have a look at the ones they often refer to as "thermal" rather than the flotation ones. FWIW I've today had delivered one of these:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Behr-Icebehr-All-Weather-2-Piece-Suit-Sizes-M-4XL-Waterproof-and-Breathable-/181527672147?pt=UK_BOI_Packing_Postal_Supplies_Lab els_LE&var=&hash=item2a43e47553

The sizing is generous, it's very comfortable & warm, everything is quite soft & it's easy to move around in. Obviously I haven't tried it yet, I bought it mainly for coastal sailing in the cold. I do have stuff that's more suitable for rough seas or if it's absolutely pi**ing it down but never plan to be out in that sort of weather...

Seven Spades
12-02-15, 18:04
What you are describing is one of these

http://www.canada-goose.com/citadel-parka-4567M.html?dwvar_4567M_Size=2XL&dwvar_4567M_Color=261#start=1

I don't think it will fit your budget though.

Vara
12-02-15, 18:51
The Decathlon kit is very good, but I don't think their sailing kit has long jackets, might be worth exploring their range of fishing and hunting jackets.

Jamesuk
12-02-15, 23:45
Buy the jacket you like the look of.

TheEcho
13-02-15, 14:26
I have a decathlon ocean jacket. It was half price and is not the current model. I think it is intended for people in far fouler conditions than I will ever venture out in, but it was cheaper than the inshore models from the big brands, so why not?
It keeps me dry in the splashiest of kayaking sessions and seems hard wearing. The one annoying feature is that the shape is rather weird. It would be a perfect fit for a woman who had, as well as the normal pair of mammary glands, an extra bowling-ball sized protrusion in the middle of her chest just below her collar bone. I actually tucked a hot water bottle in that spot last week when it was very cold, and it worked!

fastjedi
15-02-15, 00:54
I bought an RAF Gortex jacket at the Fairford Air Show a couple of years ago .....
- Fantastic quality
- Very waterproof
- Long
- Zip in liner
Mine looked new and still does .... £15 (yes £15) The only draw back is no hood .... I think you will get a really good hat for £85 and best of all it will move with your head
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RAF-wet-weather-waterproof-jacket-/121559067493?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item1c4d7c2b65

dylanwinter
15-02-15, 08:24
I bought an RAF Gortex jacket at the Fairford Air Show a couple of years ago .....
- Fantastic quality
- Very waterproof
- Long
- Zip in liner
Mine looked new and still does .... £15 (yes £15) The only draw back is no hood .... I think you will get a really good hat for £85 and best of all it will move with your head
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RAF-wet-weather-waterproof-jacket-/121559067493?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item1c4d7c2b65

that is excellent

I have looked elsewhere on ebay this morning and it is almost perfect

of course the life expectyancy of the £85 hat is about two days

- uness I attach it to the jacket with a bit of string

Laurie
04-06-15, 21:40
Shame Decathlon are the only outlet in UK...or aren't they?

LittleSister
04-06-15, 22:09
of course the life expectyancy of the £85 hat is about two days

- uness I attach it to the jacket with a bit of string

Or better still, a bit of string with a crocodile clip, or a loop in the bit of string for hooking onto a button, or similar. Then you can easily detach/re-attach as it suits.

Binman
04-06-15, 22:29
+ 1, the Gill inshore is real value for money, I have had mine some months, wear it nearly every where, with a Gill inshore fleece underneath, keeps me so warm at times I cannot wear both things together.

Jamesuk
04-06-15, 23:24
I have the Gill
inshore Winter Jacket which worked a treat at the Jolly Sailor this evening in Bursledon

Binman
05-06-15, 17:23
Don't buy a Musto BR1, not warm enough.

Dave-Shafa
05-06-15, 23:48
I got a M**** for under £150 but when the front is open the Velcro on the sleeves sticks to the velcro on the open flapping front(s).

sadlerbob
06-06-15, 02:46
Dylan
I use craghopper gear. The kiwi jacket seems good value compared to sailing gear in general, though not as durable. Also no doubt you use walking trousers either lined or unlined that are shower proof?

Bob

Sandy
06-06-15, 06:52
I picked up a jacked as you described from a SNSM stall in Brittany last year.

http://www.snsm.org/flipbook/catalogue-hiver2014/Catalogue_SNSM_Hiver_2014.html#p=10 (if this works bottom right of page 10 and "its for charity")

I don't know if the ship to England, but more than happy to pick one up on my next trip across the Manche.

Binman
06-06-15, 08:03
It might pay you to visit Blacks at Lakeside, they have a big selection, jackets and trousers, I got a pair of walking trousers, which were lined waterproof, had fly, extra pockets for less than £35 pounds. Built in web belt. Called Peter Storm. Really comfortable and warm, but not to warm for the summer use.

SeaUrchin9
29-07-15, 19:54
The 28,000 hydrostatic Head of the Tribord Ozean jacket caught my eye. Very impressed and I'm off to check it out.

I'll see if I can do a review of it.

Did you ever check this out? I'm thinking of getting this, will be doing offshore and quite probably ocean, but this is half the price of the Gill OS1.

Kingfisher 3
30-07-15, 08:42
Look at the XM range... purpose built for seagoing, come in various 'strengths' and various prices .... and a lot cheaper than Musto!

Laurie
30-07-15, 12:38
Did you ever check this out? I'm thinking of getting this, will be doing offshore and quite probably ocean, but this is half the price of the Gill OS1.

Very impressed by the Tribord Ozean 900 as I've said, there are loads of reviews for their stuff....naturally far more common on the continent. I think Decathlon are the only outlet in the UK?

(Sorry, thought I was quoting and replying to JamesUK above...........oh well, its still a bloody good jacket!)

Strolls
31-07-15, 00:34
After reading this thread yesterday I was quite taken with one of Tribord's jackets, but I couldn't work out the sizing.

I hate buying clothes online, but they don't seem to list and stores or stockists. I guess I'm out of luck?

SeaUrchin9
31-07-15, 06:25
After reading this thread yesterday I was quite taken with one of Tribord's jackets, but I couldn't work out the sizing.

I hate buying clothes online, but they don't seem to list and stores or stockists. I guess I'm out of luck?

Decathlon are the store in the UK stocking Tribord gear.

colind3782
31-07-15, 07:04
After reading this thread yesterday I was quite taken with one of Tribord's jackets, but I couldn't work out the sizing.

I hate buying clothes online, but they don't seem to list and stores or stockists. I guess I'm out of luck?

I think Tribord is a Decathlon brand

Laurie
31-07-15, 10:53
As per many posts above Decathlon are the UK distributor. Go on their website, if not local to a store, and order as per sizing chart. Not a problem..............

gandy
31-07-15, 12:13
I wanted these which were on offer for £10 each. The missus chose a Gill "Key West" jacket instead. Apart from her colour choice it seems excellent,

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/GandyGoose/gbsurvival.jpg

Tony S

JumbleDuck
31-07-15, 12:31
I wanted these which were on offer for £10 each. The missus chose a Gill "Key West" jacket instead. Apart from her colour choice it seems excellent,

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/GandyGoose/gbsurvival.jpg

Tony S

Seems familiar ...

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/321/5888/487.2/F1.medium.gif

robertt
31-07-15, 15:33
Look at the XM range... purpose built for seagoing, come in various 'strengths' and various prices .... and a lot cheaper than Musto!

I bought these recently from a bloke whose business was winding up and he was selling old stock on Gumtree. They were the XM Ocean range brand new with tags and I got the jacket and salopettes for a total of £110. They look and feel great so for that price I couldnt say no, although not yet worn in bad weather. They have Kevlar reinforced bum knees and elbows and many cool features.

Kingfisher 3
31-07-15, 17:06
[QUOTE=robertt;5395375]I bought these recently from a bloke whose business was winding up and he was selling old stock on Gumtree. They were the XM Ocean range brand new with tags and I got the jacket and salopettes for a total of

They work very well in 'heavy weather'!

southseaian
01-08-15, 18:52
I have been thinking about sailing jackets for upper middle aged inshore day sailors such as myself

I seldom sail in the really hearty rough stuff and I have a set of pretty good inherited foulies including salopettes for then but by and large when it turns bad I want to be in harbour or at home.

I spend a lot of time up estuaries and on rivers and I want a jacket that is

1/completely waterproof

2/with a decent warm collar and tucked away inside I want a hood that is warm and has enough of a peak to keep the rain and wind out of my eyes - big enough to go over the thinsulate hat

3/I want the pockets to be warm and deep - with a zip up inner one for wallet and glasses

4/I want it to be a bit long - about the length of one of those screwfix yellow jobs so that I can sometimes get through a shower of rain without having to struggle into the saloppettes - which is a bit of a mission for a big bloke in a small boat

5/I want it to be in the sort of muted colours that would allow me to wear it in town without looking like a street sweeper , French Cat racer or lego parking warden

6/no more than one badge or logo if possible - but I would prefer it to be unadorned - no high vis reflectors or any of that nonsense thanks



we used to wear bridge coats - navy blue outside, red quilted liner- warm as toast and looked okay for around town, walking the dog and also daysailing

- they were pretty good

oh yes... and I would like it to cost under £100

any suggestions chaps or are we into moon on a stick mode here.

D

Have a look at mountaineering type shops. Generally the goretex jackets are very much lighter with a great hood and just as waterproof as the sailing ones. One difference is the price.
I've just bought a Mountain equipment Karakorum 3 layer goretex for £150 from Outdoor Action. It is a longer fit model and has just got the makers name in very small letters.
I bought it to replace a similar Berghaus model which lasted +20 years.
I do have a Musto Ocean jacket but my knees buckle when I wear it. By the time I get the bottoms on i can nearly crawl up the deck!

NickRobinson
01-08-15, 19:25
5287252872I walked into an army surplus in Wadebridge, near Padstow, and came out with this little beauty for £60. I crossed the Bristol Channel in a polo shirt and this- two still on the rack, a M and an XXL!
As Fawlty might say... 'don't mention the Hood!'

JumbleDuck
01-08-15, 19:52
oh yes... and I would like it to cost under £100

any suggestions chaps or are we into moon on a stick mode here.

Guy Cotten. Fantastic stuff, meets all your requirements except that it's yellow.

http://www.guycotten.co.uk/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=122_246_165&products_id=369

Strolls
01-08-15, 21:00
I walked into an army surplus in Wadebridge, near Padstow, and came out with this little beauty for £60. I crossed the Bristol Channel in a polo shirt and this- two still on the rack, a M and an XXL!
Because I can't help myself from searching, this seems to be their site: http://www.thebunkerwarehouse.co.uk

I can't find that jacket in their eBay store, but found these alternative suppliers:


Kirkby Lonsdale, Cumbria: http://www.gr-rdtaylor.co.uk/#/army-surplus-jackets/4566432061
eBay search: http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?query=german%20navy%20%28parka,%22gore-tex%22%29

JumbleDuck
01-08-15, 21:22
Kirkby Lonsdale, Cumbria: http://www.gr-rdtaylor.co.uk/#/army-surplus-jackets/4566432061


Great shop, always worth dropping in if you're nearby.

NickRobinson
01-08-15, 22:01
Because I can't help myself from searching, this seems to be their site: http://www.thebunkerwarehouse.co.uk

I can't find that jacket in their eBay store, but found these alternative suppliers:


Kirkby Lonsdale, Cumbria: http://www.gr-rdtaylor.co.uk/#/army-surplus-jackets/4566432061
eBay search: http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?query=german%20navy%20%28parka,%22gore-tex%22%29



I asked in the shop if they had any sailing stuff to be told no, oh hang on a minute... the coat is heavy but well specced for sailing.. my last sailng jacket, a yellow Lidadl one is past its best after 8 years-

EuanMcKenzie
03-08-15, 20:25
tresspass sale is on online

I have this one
http://www.trespass.com/mens-walsenburg-03431
very high wind / waterproof and good for cycling if you buy a pair of their packamac trousers

for sailing only issue is length but when worn with salopettes works brilliantly.
for cycling add these
http://www.trespass.com/mens-corvo-01794

I used mine for skiing in Scotland last winter and stayed dry

SeaUrchin9
07-08-15, 14:30
Got the Tribord Ozean women's jacket from decathlon - sizes for Tribord seem pretty big so watch that. had to re-order the salopettes in a smaller size, and there is no size guide on the website but the quality looks really good - nice high neck & lots of nice features. Will write again when it is tested in weather.

SeaUrchin9
04-09-15, 14:21
Got the Tribord Ozean women's jacket from decathlon - sizes for Tribord seem pretty big so watch that. had to re-order the salopettes in a smaller size, and there is no size guide on the website but the quality looks really good - nice high neck & lots of nice features. Will write again when it is tested in weather.

Tribord 900 womens jacket excellent bit of kit, very warm, definately water proof, and quality add ins - like the hand warmer pockets at the top, and the high collar and hood are excellent - all fully adjustable. Also got Tribord salopettes, great fit. Fist couple of inches of the leg bottoms were a bit wet but that was after it was sheeting down for about 8 hours, so can't really complain (think its 28000 waterproof level). Felt extremely warm in combo, highly recommend. Probably just as good as the named kits out there at twice the price.

Tidewaiter2
05-09-15, 17:43
Guy Cotten. Fantastic stuff, meets all your requirements except that it's yellow.

http://www.guycotten.co.uk/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=122_246_165&products_id=369

Have to agree, my 10yo+? TP1 H-L jacket started to let in water at the lower sleeves this 'summer'. So, got a RED Guy Cotten basic PVC jacket in the fishermans co-op at Paimpol for 53 euros!Thats £39.67.
If it lasts as long as the PVC chest highs i got in the fishermans co-op in Marstrand in 1998 (still going strong), they'll probably cremate me in it:D

I run pretty 'hot', but with a Trax/Buffalo mid layer, no problem, and the PVC dries inside quick, unlike some of the high tech jackets. After all, when its chucking down, the column inches probably overwhelm the high tech materials anyway, esp. if you are winching hard etc.