Duncan Scott

[tome]

I'm researching a family friend, sadly departed and much admired by myself at least. He was an engineer with the Ellerman line and saw out the war years to gain his 39-43 star

He left me his discharge book, and I see he was 4th engineer on City of Bagdad in 1940. His last entry for this ship was 17/4/40

On 11/7/40 the ship was intercepted and sunk by the German raider Atlantis in the Indian Ocean

His next entry is as 4th engineer on City of Marseilles joining 14/8/40

My point is, there is not a break of more than 2 weeks between his first joining a ship as 6th engineer in May 37 and the end of his book in November 47. Except for the end of his Bagdad service and the start of his Marseilles, which is almost 4 months

Could he have been aboard when the ship was sunk, and what was the habit of updating discharge books for sailors who were sunk and where ships records were lost?

[landaftaf]

to set the ball rolling so to speak .......

as far as I am aware - when your ship was sunk your pay was stopped ........ if you reached the uk you got a weeks suvivors leave (so I am informed) then your name went back into the 'pool' of available seamen.


there are forums to research info re ellermans or other mn ppl

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[tome]

Ta, interesting. Can only imagine he was somewhere at sea at the time, cannot believe there's not a proud entry 'sunk by enemy gunfire' or whatever. Sheez, gonna wear my red duster with even more pride, poor buggers

I've had a look at ellermans but still plenty to research

[landaftaf]

there are a few museams around which may have info ..... try the liverpool one, very good for m.n. historic stuff.
then there is more in london.
I guess you have tried google - ellermans were a big player then.
I will look 2morrow ....... eyes drooping now /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[tome]

Me too, cheers 4 now

[landaftaf]

this could be a useful place to start - might have a historical section

register of british seamen (http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/mcga-seafarer_information/mcga-rss-home.htm)

[sierraone44]

Hello Mate, I'm MN retired and use a couple of sites to stay in touch.You may find them useful/helpful re Duncan Scott. 1) allatsea.cx 2) The British Merchant Navy. Also The Red Duster, there you may also find a link to Ellermans. Sorry you will have to 'Google' for full addresses. I believe it was 1941 after a public outcry that the millionaire shipowners agreed to pay a seamans wages after he lost his ship in action

[tome]

Thanks - useful link

[tome]

Thanks - useful links.

I've found out quite a bit about the German raider Atlantis which sank the City of Bagdad, but nothing about the crew list yet except for Norwegians