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Mariposa
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hemp lookalike
      #1806340 - 31/03/2008 21:16

I'm looking for new halyards & topping lift in traditional hemp looking 8mm 3-strand. I've come across both polyester and polypropylene.
Anyone got any strong views on which I should go for? (Or something else entirely)

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KenMcCulloch
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Re: hemp lookalike [Re: Mariposa]
      #1806526 - 31/03/2008 22:25

Go for the polyester. Polyprop is fine for tieing down tarpaulins and that kind of thing but not suitable as running rigging.

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Chrusty1
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Re: hemp lookalike [Re: Mariposa]
      #1806564 - 31/03/2008 22:34

This polyester is what I use, or Hardy Hemp, from Marinestore......

http://www.classicmarine.co.uk/prodtype.asp?prodtype=76&ph=cat


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Re: hemp lookalike [Re: Mariposa]
      #1807468 - 01/04/2008 16:00

John at Traditional Boat Supplies sent me some samples of his Polyhemp rope which I liked the look of:
tradboats.com

and I've also had good service from Pete Flockhart at Tradline Ropes and Fenders:
tradline.co.uk
who stocks both polyester and polypropyene 'hemp effect' ropes, both 3 strand and also braided which is ideal for sheets etc.

Probably the best thing is to request some samples and compare prices. I do know that the original polypropylene 'hemp' ropes didn't always wear well, so my inclination would be towards polyester. But the price difference may well be an issue.

I'll be re-rigging my own boat this year, so I'm interested to see what other recommendations are made.


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Re: hemp lookalike [Re: Mariposa]
      #1807599 - 01/04/2008 17:38

I replaced all of my lookalike polyester hemp rigging with Marlowbraid. I found that 3 strand twisted around itself and was very hard on the hands. The final straw was when the Throat Halyard parted---due to wear around a cleat and I'm sure that exposure to sunlight didnt help either.
My very traditional boat still looks nice with modern braided line and I cant imagine any of the lines letting me down.


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Mariposa
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Re: hemp lookalike [Re: bodfish]
      #1807617 - 01/04/2008 17:49

Thanks for both these links; neither came up in my Google searches. Looks like you pays your money and get what you pay for. Polyester looks to be stronger, less stretchy, more durable, and hence more expensive than polypropylene.

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Re: hemp lookalike [Re: Mariposa]
      #1807678 - 01/04/2008 19:09

Yes, I'm afraid that you're right. When I bought my old ketch the previous owner had rigged it with hemp-looking polyprop. Five years of Sydney sunshine had reduced it to powder whenever I tried to handle one of the ropes. I re-rigged with 3-strand polyester had had no further trouble.
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Mariposa
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Re: hemp lookalike [Re: Peterduck]
      #1807687 - 01/04/2008 19:20

Quote:

Five years of Sydney sunshine had reduced it to powder




That'll equate to around 50 years of sunshine up here in Scotland

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Re: hemp lookalike [Re: Mariposa]
      #1808004 - 01/04/2008 23:17

It might take 50 years to get as much sunshine as Oz but polyprop will be falling apart anyway within the year. It can't take UV at all. It's purpose does not include rigging of any sort. It's a cheap floating line where degradation and performance is not important.
I've tried hardy hemp but it will also fall to UV much more quickly than poyester and I've tried 3 strand buff polyester but found it too soft to work all that well with longevity of splices and I'm now using buff coloured braided polyester which looks the part, performs and lasts well but of course is more fiddly to splice than 3 strand.


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Mariposa
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Re: hemp lookalike [Re: johnchampion]
      #1808013 - 01/04/2008 23:23

"Longevity of splices" ??? What goes wrong?
I know polyester is more "slippery" than traditional rope so an extra couple of tucks is recommended to prevent things from coming apart.

BTW. I'll be buying polyester. To hell with the cost, just don't tell SWMBO!

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