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Delphi
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Mains but no phone line-still a way to communicate?
      #1326250 - 26/01/2007 22:28

Hiya,
a friend has just come back to the UK and is temp based in Devon in a location with no mobile reception.They are renting a cottage which shares a phoneline with two others but located some 100 yards away in the communal area (washing machine.etc)and the other cottages are not being used atm.QED they cannot hear the phone ringing.They have mains and tv so the question is - any ideas of how to contact them rather than waiting for them to contact me? They have a baby feedback 2 way walkie talkie and a buying a spare set may cover the ground so they can hear the phone ringing ?but I wondered if there is anything we could do via the power supply or tv co-axial?
Any ideas please?!


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philip_stevens
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Re: Mains but no phone line-still a way to communicate? [Re: Delphi]
      #1326449 - 27/01/2007 10:14

Available are two way systems that use the mains as both supply and signal transmission, and I believe I saw one as a baby alarm.

The cabling must be on the same phase though. So if there is 3 phase in the property, the houses may be on different phases.

This shows one type, but others are available. Maybe not cheap though, but can be removed when moving.

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Re: Mains but no phone line-still a way to communicate? [Re: Delphi]
      #1326635 - 27/01/2007 15:44

what about a normal wireless home phone. Put the base station on the phone socket like normal, and once charged, the handset in the cottage.

100yds might be pushing it a bit though, so will need to check the maximum ranges before purchase, they can vary quite a bit.

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Re: Mains but no phone line-still a way to communicate? [Re: Delphi]
      #1327694 - 28/01/2007 21:50

I agree with Bendan that if it works, a standard DECT phone is the best way to go. I have extensively tested mine (branded BT 1500) and achieve almost exactly 100m in clear-sight conditions, so you are right on the limits.

Have they tried other mobile networks..... in West Country (and Scotland) the low-band networks (O2, Vodaphone) often work better than high-band (Orange, T-Mobile).

Personally, I know what I'd do.......run a length of cheap 2-core bell wire to the chalet (at night if necessary and bury it just into the ground). After all, these days you can do what you like after the master socket.

Vic


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Re: Mains but no phone line-still a way to communicate? [Re: VicMallows]
      #1327699 - 28/01/2007 22:00

the Dect phones vary. Some say max clear line of site is 50m, other models are up to 300m. How that would translate to real world putting in a location well away from the cottage depends on the location, but you'd expect a 300m model to stand half a chance.


100 yds of 'bellwire' on a socket of unknown provenance might also cause problems (you'll need socket extension wire, not bellwire! and that is one hell of an extension for a normal phone setup). If in rented cottage, I'd guess the chances of being able to dig it in are low, and probably draped across the ground for the period they are there. Long runs like that can cause problems though.

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Re: Mains but no phone line-still a way to communicate? [Re: BrendanS]
      #1327721 - 28/01/2007 22:22

Yes, mine claims 'up to 300m' .... I was reporting real life experience. I'm sure if I put the base in an upstairs open window I would achieve 300m.

2-core bellwire will work absolutely fine. Yes, you need to know how to connect it. What comes into your house from the pole? .... often not even twisted.

My comment ('at night if necessary') surely suggested a somewhat light hearted, though perfectly feasible, solution.

Vic


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Re: Mains but no phone line-still a way to communicate? [Re: VicMallows]
      #1327868 - 29/01/2007 00:28

I'll leave wired extensions to you, as I don't have any real practical experience, other than long extensions I've tried didn't work on marginal connections. Only ever tried prewired extension cables, so not the same.

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Re: Mains but no phone line-still a way to communicate? [Re: BrendanS]
      #1327870 - 29/01/2007 00:30

So the concensus is to run a coax cable the distance to the cottage and see if the loss is still ok v the gain/loss?
Delphi xx


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Re: Mains but no phone line-still a way to communicate? [Re: Delphi]
      #1328701 - 29/01/2007 17:36

Butting in here,just ordinary bell or phone cable,not coax.
On Dect phones,very much depends on terrain,mine runs out to 150m in one direction and only 60m in another.

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