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Glayva
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How do you catch fish?
      #1685854 - 20/12/2007 09:43

I spent three months this year towing a trolling line behind my boat and caught absolutely nothing. I did pull it in every few hours to check if I had caught something. I also pulled it in whenever I sighted dolphins coming up to greet me. Yet I have friends with a Nic 32 in Dover who whenever I visit them feed me with fresh mackerel they have just caught with their trolling line. I asked them for a tip and they said 'always put the line out over wrecks.' Well there should be plenty of wrecks out in the middle Atlantic after the U boats had done their work [I hear the ghosts from both sides calling me; 'help' und 'hilf' all the time] and still I catch nothing. I've even sailed through a school of tuna and not attracted any fish to my line.

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tomato
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Re: How do you catch fish? [Re: Glayva]
      #1685901 - 20/12/2007 10:31

Ya gota put something on the end of ya line !

You can't catch a rabbit by towing a piece of string across a field. You've goto put something on the end of it,

Like a dog !


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Noddy
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Re: How do you catch fish? [Re: tomato]
      #1685996 - 20/12/2007 11:52

I have no trouble catching mackeral. Your friend is right it seems to be in the vicinity of underwater obsructions - I don't know why.

The secret technique you seek Glasshopper is a Palavane. (Paravane).

This uses the motion of the boat to take your line down so it doesn't just trail along the surface.

You can usually get 'em on ebay for a few quid.

In fact: http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=paravane

Tight Lines
Paul

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sterenn
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Re: How do you catch fish? [Re: Glayva]
      #1686350 - 20/12/2007 18:46

Bonjour
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I spent three months this year towing a trolling line behind my boat
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I thought it was a non-race!!!
Eric

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Pourquoi faire simple quand on peut faire complique ?


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Damo
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Re: How do you catch fish? [Re: Noddy]
      #1686639 - 20/12/2007 23:29

And you can make one for nothing from a bit of ply or kitchen chopping board, and a nut and bolt to weight it in the right place.

In the summer months mackerel love mine - the handy thing is that a paravane stays below until the fishes grabs the lure then it splashes about on the surface to tell you it wants to be cooked (Apart from the 12cm fish I towed 35M from Lundy to Swansea cos he was too small to bring it up!)

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Noddy
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Re: How do you catch fish? [Re: Damo]
      #1686786 - 21/12/2007 08:48

If you go at about 6 knots you only catch:
a) The really fast Mackeral
b) The ones with good eyesight and fast reactions
c) Lips

So boat speed would seem to have a negative correlation with fish size. (the slower you go the fatter the fish)

However, my experience of this type of trolling is coastal; ie in the North Sea / English Channel, where the wrecks and sandbanks are in shallower water. Fishing in the open ocean might be very different.

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Noddy
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Re: How do you catch fish? [Re: Noddy]
      #1686795 - 21/12/2007 08:55

I've got a copy of this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cruisers-Handboo...7115&sr=8-2

Its OK I suppose. But I would probably read it with your specific location / circumstances / prey in mind. It doesn't seem all that relevant to UK home waters.

A bit full on if you only want to dangle a line over the stern.

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Mac77
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Re: How do you catch fish? [Re: Noddy]
      #1687051 - 21/12/2007 12:46

Quote:

I have no trouble catching mackerel. Your friend is right it seems to be in the vicinity of underwater obsructions - I don't know why. -

Because blue water is proper boring. Well it is if you are diving. Probably more food related for the fish.

The Fastnet Rock is supposed to be teaming with marine life which will attract fish. Maybe a few circuits of the rock will turn up a few fish. Alternatively hop from wreck to wreck.

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Macwester 26 for sale

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/JYC017

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tomato
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Re: How do you catch fish? [Re: Glayva]
      #1687261 - 21/12/2007 16:48

Spear gun for if your becalmed in the ocean.

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Glayva
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Re: How do you catch fish? [Re: tomato]
      #1687784 - 22/12/2007 11:06

Quote:

Ya gota put something on the end of ya line !
Like a dog !



I often tow my westie bitch around Langstone Harbour when she decides she would rather swim out to Glayva than stay in the dinghy. But so far she has not caught me any mackerel.
I do tow a large red sinker on the end of the line with about 12 hooks with attractive bits of plastic attached. The sinker causes the line to sink to a sufficient depth that none of the line is exposed beyond two wavelengths behind. But still no fish.

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If it moves and it shouldn't use gaffer tape. If it doesn't move and it should use WD40.


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