IanfMorris
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The pleasure boating industry must be careful that is does not protest too much. There is something wrong with getting tax free fuel just to go for a spin up the Solent or wherever while other, and often less fortunates have to pay tax on their fuel to travel to work.
We will look very silly indeed if this debate comes out into the wider population especially as most of the electorate do not own a boat, let alone one with 500hp on board. In reality there may be a few owners who will find the extra cost unbearable but to the majority of keen power boaters I suspect it will be afordable.
Let us not both loose the debate, as we will, and get a bad name into the bargain.
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SoulFireMage
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Loc: Portishead, Bristol, UK
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Interesting first post there.
I personally don't like the idea that the EU can dictate what our own government does about our own tax issues. Tax isn't harmonised across all the EU so why should they have any say at all? Bad move this superstate stuff IMHO.
It will then come down to priorities really. Is it that important that the government scrape the pound of flesh further off of what isn't a huge source of tax anyway? I'm surprised that any country outside the UK pays attention to something this minor in scale. I feel they should mind their own business and leave the UK government to enact the will of it's own population on this one. I would be gutted if the majority had voted to get rid of red diesel for boaters-but I'm biased aren't I? and it IS meant to be a democracy.
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mobo1
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I would just like to point out that red diesel is not tax free!
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sarabande
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Welcome to the centre of the nautical universe. It's not always the painful black hole that it is made out to be.
It sounds as if you have a background in tax / finance. Can you guess at any ways the government might be jumping, perhaps with a campaign to highlight the environmental and financial impact of large numbers of sober and upright citizens hurtling around the briney whilst multi-hundreds of horses slurp up the red stuff, and convert it to noise, CO2,and carcinogenic particulate matter ?
Do you have any views on possible European harmonisation on this matter ?
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rickp
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You may as well say the same thing about the airlines and their "tax relief" on aviation fuel.
Rick
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IanfMorris
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If we are not careful we will play into their hands and be made to look like the wealthy not caring about the env etc. Just look at the way the gov played the foxhunters, it just became a sort of class thing. Yes I know boating is different it's just the tactics that will be similar, it may be neccessary to give a little to win a lot. Over and out, the ball is back with you all, be carefull.
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cliff
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Over and out, the ball is back with you all, be carefull.
Hmmm, sounds like you are not included in the boating fraternity. "over and out" - too much american TV perhaps? "the ball is back with you all - you do not include yourself in the argument then?
Do I smell a troll? - yes!
One could take the argument a stage further and say why should holiday makers benefit from low tax aviation fuel? O.K. do away with the derogation on red but at the same time do away with the cheap aviation fuel for "leisure users" AKA - tourists. Let us see what the general public think of the loss of cheap av-gas or Jet-A fuel when their holiday flights suddenly costs them double or even triple.
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sarabande
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Possibly linked to
financial maze
Are we another item on the agenda ?
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sarabande
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I meant to say that there's an IanfMorris with high expertise on that site.
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Wight_Dawn
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Loc: Western Scotland
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Yes, we do use it for pleasure and yes, it is tax rebated (but not tax free.) However, as has been pointed out before, the penal rate of tax on white diesel is because it is used on the roads and the tax is to pay for construction, repair, maintenance and policing of these roads. If you do not use the fuel on the road, why should you be required to pay road related excise duty, whether you use the fuel for profit (when you can offset the cost against other taxes) or pleasure (when you can't)?
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