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inlandnewbie
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oops... damaged props
      #1838187 - 26/04/2008 18:31

Okay, it appears that we have had our first mishap today, as we pranged our prop as we were entering Bray marina (heading downstream we went pass the island and turned back on ourselves, and then just briefly the props must of caught). Afterwards could feel a vibration when the revs built up.
the boat is a sealine S23 sterndrive dual prop - a couple of questions.
1) can they be fixed & replaced without the boat having to be lifted out?
2) if so, is it a job for an expert or one that can be done ourselves.
3) if an expert required, can anyone recommend anyone?
4) any rough idea of cost?


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Re: oops... damaged props [Re: inlandnewbie]
      #1838223 - 26/04/2008 19:29

You can easilly have them repaired, somewhere like Steel Developements, we have used them in the past and they do a great job.

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Nickcf
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Re: oops... damaged props [Re: inlandnewbie]
      #1838226 - 26/04/2008 19:38

Cost depends hugely on size of prop, how much damage and what the props are made of. If new blades are needed then could be £200+, if just a bent blade then maybe £40-£50.

Specialist job though, wouldn't attempt it yourself as they need balancing after repair to prevent vibration which is essential.


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martin1001
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Re: oops... damaged props [Re: SkipperMarv]
      #1838229 - 26/04/2008 19:41

Steel Developments will recondition alloy props for something like £30 to 40 each.
you can probably remove the props after lifting the legs on their power lift - I usuall stand thigh deep in water to remove/change my propellers (working partly under water). you dont need much damage to cause vibration .. it may be quite small dink.
If you are handy you can remove them yourself.
Best kit that I have for this is a large wooden wedge which I use to wedge/hold the prop while i turn off the central retaining nut.


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Re: oops... damaged props [Re: inlandnewbie]
      #1838691 - 27/04/2008 11:49

Hi, sorry to hear of you problems. I'm berthed on G pontoon, a few boats down from you. I saw you when we came back to the marina on Friday. I noticed a few large branches off the already overhanging trees have toppled into the water between the marina and queens eyot since last year and has made for careful navigation since.

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Edited by flashheart (27/04/2008 11:50)


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inlandnewbie
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Re: oops... damaged props [Re: flashheart]
      #1838707 - 27/04/2008 12:14

hi there, nice of you to say hello.
Was I right to head pass queens eyot when heading downstream and then turn back upstream round the inside of the island before heading into the marina? or are you allowed to cut straight across (ie, infront of the restaurant) when entering the marina?
I'm hoping to be able to get the prop fixed before the weekend, but not sure where to start, although I have noticed that there is a marine engineer (thames marine) based in the marina, hopefully it's something they can do quickly.


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boatone
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Re: oops... damaged props [Re: inlandnewbie]
      #1838744 - 27/04/2008 13:06

With your boat you ought to be able to raise the legs and examine for damage while on the pontoon. I used to be able to remove a prop on my P32 from the bathing platform with care. Need to make sure any tools are lanyarded and tied on and also tie a line round a propblade securely so you dont lose it when it comes off. Take a good look at the service manual to see how it fits together.

If bathing platform makes it too difficult to reach/see find a shallow area on the bank somewhere and get into the water to take a closer look. Armpit waders are a great thing to keep on board for such events.

As far as Bray Marina is comcerned, no reason I am aware of that prevents you cutting across by the restaurant to enter the marina from upstream.

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flashheart
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Re: oops... damaged props [Re: inlandnewbie]
      #1838749 - 27/04/2008 13:21

Its usually the done thing to enter the marina facing upstream, especially if its a strong current. But its down to yourself and your confidence and there's nothing to say you can't enter downstream and I've seen others do it.
Being shaft driven and no bow thruster I always tend to go around and enter the marina upstream for my sake, as its easier to get the boat into the marina.
Yes Thames Marine engineers are a good bunch. Went to get help regarding some engine problems I was having on Friday morning and one of them came and sorted the problem within an hour.

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Re: oops... damaged props [Re: inlandnewbie]
      #1838799 - 27/04/2008 15:18

I think you will find MDL say you should go round Queens Eyot and come upstream (as you did). The advice is given in the book contained in the welcome pack, and also suggests a long blast on the horn before leaving or entering the marina, followed by 2 short blasts to warn you are turning to port.

As you have unfortunately discovered, the downstream end of Queens Eyot is VERY shallow, and it is best to stay a couple of lengths out to stay in deeper water.

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inlandnewbie
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Re: oops... damaged props [Re: Ramage]
      #1838808 - 27/04/2008 15:29

I thought I had done the correct thing by going round the queens eyot and was convinced that I had given the island enough room before turning into it - was quickly proved wrong though.
Didn't know about blasting the horn though, will do that next time


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