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boatone
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Letter to the Editor of MBM
      #1863121 - 18/05/2008 12:10

Dear Mr. Richardson,

The news that MBM were intending to run a major inland waterways edition, and, in particular, address some of the issues relating to the Thames came as a breath of fresh air. Unfortunately I must express my disappointment with what I can only describe as a golden opportunity frittered away in the interest of ill informed and sensationalist journalism.

Your editorial in the June issue presented an opportunity for a well respected and widely read publication to draw attention to the need for debate and action on the future of a national environmental and recreational asset. Instead, you seem to have decided to bypass the serious issues in favour of a tabloid style rant no better than some of the extreme views expressed on the ybw Thames forum. Frankly, I am disappointed.

The first few paragraphs of your editorial are hardly worthy of comment so let’s look at the bits that are relevant:

Quote :
“if you like the idea of a friendly, knowledgeable lock-keeper on hand to give advice, maintain the river and look out for problems. Wave goodbye to all that, with the EA’s latest plans it looks like the role will be downgraded to the equivalent of a van-driving municipal park keeper. The EA can bang on about ‘no significant impact,’ but without the housing, this low-paid job will lose its appeal, the morale of lock-keepers might disintegrate, and the river could lose its best guardians.”

Yes, it’s nice to have the lock-keepers on hand to chat and give friendly advice but ‘maintain the river and lookout for problems’?? The primary duties of lock-keepers appear to be locking duties and weir duties. Admitted many of them have done a wonderful and much appreciated job of tending the lock side gardens but I would hardly class this as ‘maintaining the river’.

The fact is that many river users have been using the locks for many years now without lock-keeper assistance and with little or no problems except when lock machinery is defective. Electrification has been moving on apace and this not only makes self working much easier, but also reduces or even negates the possibility of unsynchronised sluice and gate movements. Out of hours use of the locks is quite common in the early morning and late evening periods as well as during lock-keepers meal and weir keeping absences.

The EA have stated that they intend to ensure that manned locking will continue and even be improved during the main seasonal periods. So whats so different to the status quo?

Somewhere along the line we have got to place some faith in the people charged with managing the river. The all pervasive mood of total mistrust and, in many cases downright rude attitudes towards people trying to do their jobs is hardly any more conducive to their determination and morale than the issue you raise of the morale of the lock-keepers themselves.

It is not for us to manage the river or, indeed, tell the Environment Agency how to do so. As river users, and particularly as licence fee payers, we do have a right to express our concerns and campaign for improved funding from central government.

Near the end of your editorial, you finally acknowledge this.
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“It’s true, central Government lies behind the problem but just when the river desperately needs some good news, the EA’s decision to sell off the family silver is at best badly timed, and at worst potentially catastrophic for our rivers’ long-term health.”

‘Selling off the family silver” is exactly how I described the move in a post on your Thames forum but is this not primarily down to DEFRA and central government imposing requirements and funding restrictions on the EA?

A study of the various documents on the Environment Agency website reveals just how dependent the EA Thames Division is on overall EA and government grant funding. It is equally obvious that boaters cannot possibly be expected to provide the increased funding required to address years of neglect and underfunding. In many cases problems lie with local authorities along the river rather than the EA themselves. As I said at the beginning, the Thames is a national environmental and recreational asset and needs to be recognised and funded as such.

Final bit of your editorial:
“Not exactly the fanfare I wanted for the first of our new Inland Special issues but at times like these we all need to rally to the cause.”

So please bite the bullet and start doing some serious investigative and commentary journalism aimed at getting this issue before parliament where the decisions need to be taken if real progress is to be achieved. Hopefully this would also lead to closer attention being paid to effective management. There are far too many factions on the river and no one central representation of river users. As long as emotional hysteria and ignorant attacks on people trying to work ‘at the coalface’ continue we will get nowhere.

Yours in hope rather than anger

Etc etc

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alan006
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Re: Letter to the Editor of MBM [Re: boatone]
      #1863302 - 18/05/2008 17:23

I think that the river Medway went this route several years ago, replacing the regular lockkeepers with a system simular to the one you describe for the Thames.
It would be interesting to see what lessons were learnt from this experience. I think studing this would be a very worthwhile exercise. I believe this change took place just before the severe flooding on the Medway a few years ago so the change has had a few years to be assessed on.


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oldgit
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Re: Letter to the Editor of MBM [Re: alan006]
      #1863406 - 18/05/2008 19:01

Agree 100% with B1s lucid and pragmatic comments.
The Thames has appeared to have remained immune from the financial pressures that have ensured that all other waterways have had to come into the 20th century as far as efficient use of labour is concerned.
Athough a far smaller river with less traffic all users of the Medway have to be able to work all 9 manual locks and the Yalding lifting bridge in order to go from Allington to Tonbridge.A half dozen staff based at the first and tidal lock manage the entire river.
All the weirs and sluices adjacent to the locks as far as I know are fully automatic and the only known flood problem is of Yalding which is caused by the Teise and Beult joining the main flow of the river.
To date the last accident of note was when some oik messing about in lock near Tonbridge twisted his ankle and had to taken to hospital.Am not aware of a single collision or drowning on the navigation or the apparent need for a lockeeper(in uniform of course) to hold peoples hands when transiting locks.
Apart from the very busy lower stretches of the Thames it is very difficult to justify permanently manned locks.Sorry lads but it seems you will just have to tie up,climb out and work those gates and sluices yerselves in the future .
Wear gloves it will stop your nails getting damaged.
That magazine feature appears to owe more to the News of the World than the The Telegraph.


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Andrew_Fanner
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Re: Letter to the Editor of MBM [Re: oldgit]
      #1863880 - 19/05/2008 09:09

To be fair the Medway, sadly, has far less traffic than the Thames and most of the time a resident keepr, certainly above Yalding, would have little or nothing to do.

The last time I was at Yalding, and the time before that, we had to call EA to work the bridge as public use had failed. I think Maidstone might be Jedi's limit though, I think I would bottle East Farleigh. And that's even though a previous owner had "Hot Todi Yalding" on the stern!

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apollo
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Re: Letter to the Editor of MBM [Re: oldgit]
      #1863898 - 19/05/2008 09:29

I were to keep my boat on the Upper Medway it would cost me £235 per year for a license (from the EA website), albeit would be a pointless exercise as my boat would not fit under East Farleigh bridge.

I currently pay £600 per year on the Thames.

There are only a couple of ways this could go...

Either our license would drop due to less facilities - which would not help the EA budget much and lets face it - that aint going to happen.

Or perhaps they would equalize all the navigations, and guess what, yours could go up 300%.

My reading of the 20year plan is that is what they have in mind, lets face it they need the cash. (Again I freely admit that I could be wrong but certainly seems like that - has anybody else read it??)

You do the maths..


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Re: Letter to the Editor of MBM [Re: boatone]
      #1864803 - 19/05/2008 20:21

I've just read your very measured letter to the Editor of MBM and whilst I totally agree that it is not 'our' job to manage the River I do believe it is our 'right' to help decide where our money is spent. The Thames River Users have a long and proud history of being directly involved with whoever 'Thames Management' was/is right through from T.C. to T.W. to N.R.A. They have had a say in what the Navigation Authoritiy's priorities should be.
Have those 'User Groups' been involved in this latest proposal? Have they seen the business case? Have they heard and ageed with the 'rationale? If they have would they please take the time to explain their view? If they have not would they please tell us what their next step is and what they might what us to do to help!


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Re: Letter to the Editor of MBM [Re: boatone]
      #1865037 - 19/05/2008 22:17

Quite suprised the Editor hasnt replied

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boatone
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Re: Letter to the Editor of MBM [Re: Cuchilo]
      #1865944 - 20/05/2008 17:52

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Quite suprised the Editor hasnt replied




Carl has replied to me by PM. I suggested he might post to the forum but he prefers not to.

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Re: Letter to the Editor of MBM [Re: boatone]
      #1866042 - 20/05/2008 19:08

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Carl has replied to me by PM. I suggested he might post to the forum but he prefers not to




Why Has he got something to hide

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Re: Letter to the Editor of MBM [Re: Cuchilo]
      #1866127 - 20/05/2008 20:17

I would assume as a letter to the editor it will be published in the next edition and his response with it?

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