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asteven221
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Kitchen roll and toilets
      #1851648 - 08/05/2008 15:35

Yes I know that you're not supposed to put kitchen roll down Jabsco toilets, but I forgot. What was meant to be a 30 second job "nipping up" the jubilee clip at the waste pipe to stop a very slight weep has become a saga and made me weep! I tightened the clip and wanting to keep things spotlessly clean under the command of swmbo, I used plenty of kitchen roll. Where's the easiest place to put it? Of course down the cludgy, which of course jammed the pump. Hacked off at my stupidity I went home. The following evening I drove down to the boat, dismantled the pump and removed the kitchen roll. Great. Easy peazy. Reassembled it all to find it wouldn't sook in or pump out. Messed around for ages. Gave up in a fit of pissedofedness. Next night back again with new enthusiasm. Despite all efforts I just couldn't budge or remove any of the pipe work. I then noticed that the pump would work emptying the bowl to the holding tank - but not overboard. Also discovered the discharge pump for the holding tank wouldn't work either. Conclusion therefore had to be a blockage at the seacock. Fed up again - went home. Decided it would be easier to write a cheque. Got engineer down who confirmed blockage is at the seacock. He managed to eventually remove the pipe after an hour or so, but still couldn't clear the blockage. Different options were tried without success. So.. tomorrow a diver is going under to try and clear it from the outside. I can see an effing big bill coming. Effing boats! Effin stupid me who should have known better. So the motto is clear. Don't EVER consider putting kitchen roll down a Jabsco toilet - but hey you all knew that already - just like I did!

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Relax
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Re: Kitchen roll and toilets [Re: asteven221]
      #1851726 - 08/05/2008 16:48

Had this happen to me (but not with kitchen roll............ )

I used a blunt hacksaw blade and a pair of rubber gloves.

Lovely.............

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Adamastor
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Re: Kitchen roll and toilets [Re: asteven221]
      #1851941 - 08/05/2008 20:01

Been there- done that! Your k-roll's stuck in a little wad against the neck in the hose-barb, else it's up against the ball in the outlet where the skin-fitting valve is. What's happened is you've tried to eject a 38mm wad through the (typically) 30mm hole INSIDE the seacock/skinfitting.
See if the seacock closes. If so, I'd consider yanking the outlet pipe, even if you do it at the "upstream" end. Attack the wad from "upstream" with a liberal dose of drain-rodding: there's usually a sort of screwy-drilly-hooky-sort-of-attachment on domestic rods. My bet's the wad is on the pipe side of the skinfitting, so the pipe-removal option's my prescription!
Look at scrapping the outlet pipe and replacing it if you trash it. All in all it's cheaper than a diver's time! Even the consequences of opening the seacock with the pipe off- a sudden inrush of water, stemmed with a tennis-ball under one's foot- is cheaper than a diver!


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mikehibb
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Re: Kitchen roll and toilets [Re: Adamastor]
      #1851999 - 08/05/2008 20:57

First thing I bought when we got our boat was some rubber gloves, as I already knew that the Jabsco was going to need replacement, after a few minutes messing around myself, I decided that 25 Euro was cheap as chips for the Marina guy to change the Jabsco for me.

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asteven221
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Re: Kitchen roll and toilets [Re: mikehibb]
      #1853089 - 09/05/2008 14:49

Glad to report that we're back in business with a fully operation toilet! A divers been down and a compressed ball of kitchen roll has been removed from the skin fitting. Lesson learned the hard way! Have not seen the bill yet!

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wotayottie
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Re: Kitchen roll and toilets [Re: asteven221]
      #1853315 - 09/05/2008 17:46

On our last boat we adopted the Greek flottila approach of putting toilet paper in a bin so that nothing but human waste went down the bog. Didnt come easy - not what we northern europeans are used to, but it worked. No smell whatsoever, and no risk of bog blockages.

pedal bin contents emptied into the marina skip as usual.

would recommend this approach if you have a holding tank


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Re: Kitchen roll and toilets [Re: wotayottie]
      #1853442 - 09/05/2008 20:05

Or get a Lavac that will handle kitchen roll or similar without a problem.

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Aberman
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Re: Kitchen roll and toilets [Re: Searush]
      #1853678 - 09/05/2008 23:36

Been there done that, my son threw up and SWMBO wrapped the offending vomit in a HUGE wad of kitchen roll and dumped it done the loo! Nearly midnight and a 1/4 mile from any other toilet. To compound the situation, the pipes were reduced to a 1/4 of their diameter with lime-scale. Had to remove the issue, pipe-work the lot. Still SWMBO learnt some new words and how to strip down and rerbuild the toilet.

We also now have a system that only things that have passed through the body from top to bottom can go down the loo. Everything else is bagged and binned. Not too much much of handicap; but then we did have a septic tank when we had a home ashore, and we operated a similar system then.

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Captainslarty
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Re: Kitchen roll and toilets [Re: Searush]
      #1854393 - 11/05/2008 08:10

Searush, a LAVAC will NOT handle kitchen towel, I can vouch for it..

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whipper_snapper
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Re: Kitchen roll and toilets [Re: Captainslarty]
      #1854402 - 11/05/2008 08:19

Me too! Or at least, the Lavac handled it OK, as did the Henderson pump, but that just meant a compacted mass at the outlet seacock which was a nightmare to get at.

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