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Just copied this from the ISC web site, I guess its about standard for the race. Would love to do it one day.
Race Control report the incidents break down as follows - out of 18,000 people taking part in 1875 boats entered: 4 boats were dismasted; 5 boats were damaged and needed a tow; 1 boat sank; 1 boat upturned / capsized; 11 Man Overboards 5 injuries including one person lifted off by helicopter to Southampton General with a head injury - we understand this person is now out of danger; 5 boats grounded.
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Bav34
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Upturned boat
HERE
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NDH
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Did it for the first time, absolutely brilliant, very exhilarating and already looking foreward to next year
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MoodyNick
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we were out spectating, initially anchored just inside Hurst then ran down to Osborne Bay to catch them coming back round.
Was quite suprised at the number of Maydays and the CG somewhat tardy handling of them. The first was a boat which lost all steering just as it approached Hurst - I managed to flag down a Seastart RIB and get them to go to the boat. The CG suggested they drop anchor ... in the middle of Hurst Narrows in 3kts of tide with 1700 boats coming towards them.
Then we heard about 2 MOBs off one boat, and so it went on. Each time the CG seemed to spend ages asking for boat names to be spelled out, Lat/longs repeated even though the casualty were giving a description of the position, before he any rescue action was instigated. By then, other boats nearby had dealt with the matter.
Certainly a great day out on the water, for competitiors and spectators.
Well done to all forumites who entered.... and finished.
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lescargot
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...Was quite suprised at the number of Maydays and the CG somewhat tardy handling of them...
The coastguard has only limited resources, literally a handful of lifeboats, and a fleet of probably getting on for 2000 potential casualty vessels, so they have to prioritise - unless lives are immediately at risk they are not going to commit any resources. Also identification of a boat in a fleet that size needs a lot of information to direct resources to, remember they have no visual contact and they have to task someone else using that information.
They also have other matters to deal with, I know at one time a shore crew and some crewmembers of Ryde Inshore were tied up with a non RTIR matter and subsequent death.
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Gezzer
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Reged: 07/03/2003
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Loc: South Wales / Gosport
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Casualty here i'm afraid, but not in the race, badly sprained my ankle 2 days before the day so had to withdraw, not happy. right decision though, can hardly walk, let alone stand at the helm for 9 hrs or so, would have been a liability to all onboard, still there is always next year.
Well done to all those that made it, some impressive results by scuttlebuttlers.....
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Solitaire
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Quote:
Was quite surprised at the number of Maydays and the CG somewhat tardy handling of them. The first was a boat which lost all steering just as it approached Hurst - I managed to flag down a Seastart RIB and get them to go to the boat. The CG suggested they drop anchor ... in the middle of Hurst Narrows in 3kts of tide with 1700 boats coming towards them.
Then we heard about 2 MOBs off one boat, and so it went on. Each time the CG seemed to spend ages asking for boat names to be spelled out, Lat/longs repeated even though the casualty were giving a description of the position, before he any rescue action was instigated. By then, other boats nearby had dealt with the matter.
I have to agree - heard all the calls and was frankly very dismayed at the way Solent CG handled them. I don't think they were listening! I think the controller yesterday was very poor given the number of calls being made. I was off the Needles when the call came in from the boat in Hurst narrows. I watched the RNLI and saw no reaction and thought hmmmmmmmmm. OK, so they need to be tasked by MCA but they were a stones throw away and no call was made. Mind you, I don't have ch 0 so difficult really to comment.
I did think that asking a boat to drop anchor in Hurst narrows was slightly suspect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I heard Nick Eales of Saastart radio in and say he was alongside the stricken vessel, but even the SCG was very indecisive.
I have to add that the standard of VHF protocol by those calling had a lot to be desired .
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BrendanS
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Were they genuine Mayday calls, or stuff that could be handled by the boats concerned, while CG concentrated on the urgent ones? Wasn't there, so no idea
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AlexL
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Add me to the list of people thinking that the CG radio operator yesterday was very very poor. No people skills at all, no 'crisis management' ability.
MOB and serious head injuries are definately maydays in my book. I listened in utter disbelief turning to disgust to a mayday near st katherines point regarding someone unconcious with blood coming from their ears after a bad gybe. You could hear the panic and dispair in the guys voice on the yacht sending the mayday. Maybe I'm used to better in my profession, but I thought the coastgards dogged attempts to fill all the boxes in on his form, and asking for the lat long at least 5 times, rather than dealing with what was obviously going to need an evac, was utterly comtemptous. Yes the guy read out an incorrect lat long, (probably the darned cursor position on the chartplotter or something) but he had also said 1 mile off st kaths - which was exactly where he was. Have always been fans of the CG, but perhaps, rather than reading out 'safety' broadcasts about industrial action, they should consider a bit of basic crisis management training.
Was quite surprised at the number of people going in the drink, none of us seemed to be at any risk of going in, but then again my 300th place finish shows that we were a cruising crew out for a play, and didn't have old billy-big-balls out on the fore deck playing with a kite in a force 6!
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castaway
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Reged: 31/12/2001
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Yes we smiled at the rq to drop anchor...but also at the 'brief description of the boat' for the upturned skiff off St Kats !!
I guess they have to tick all the boxes like the rest of us..
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