Madron492
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Wasn't it lucky that nobody actually died in the Race on sunday!! It would seem that many were not experienced enough or equipped to deal with situations they could find themselves in.
I think as well that some peeps are being too hard on Solent CG. I believe that they took over 50 calls for assistance during the morning. Some were Maydays,some were Pans and some the crews should have been experienced enuff to sort out themselves. A lot of the Maydays were not in immediate danger at all and maybe if the man overboards had been hooked on they wouldn't have ended up in the water!!
How do you think you would have coped taking that much distress! traffic,talk and type and send help at the same time.Perhaps the organisers should invest in more safety boats to assist those breaking down etc.
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NDH
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Reged: 16/03/2006
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Loc: Hampshire
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Wasn't it lucky that nobody actually died in the Race on sunday!! It would seem that many were not experienced enough or equipped to deal with situations they could find themselves in.
Thats how you gain experience by actually doing it. It was my first time and I and SWMBO agreed that we learnt so much about ourselves and the boat we feel a lot more confident now in our own ability.
Well done and a big THANK YOU to all involved in the organisation and back up services on the day.
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Fireball
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Reged: 15/11/2004
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Loc: Chichester
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A lot of the Maydays were not in immediate danger at all
Can you tell us specifics - which Maydays were not maydays? FWIW - Man Overboards are classed as a Mayday ... but would like to hear what you thought was over egged.
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curve
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Reged: 09/02/2008
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I'd like to know that as well. Please give us some examples. I wasn't listening to the radio on the day of the race but we did see the skiff capsize and that certainly looked like a MayDay call to us.
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lw395
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Reged: 16/05/2007
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A capsize in a skiff shouldn't in itself be a mayday. From the picture it had a broken bowsprit, interested to know more. I think if you want to sail dinghies round the island, the day of the ISC RTIR is a bad choice. Bad form to rely on competitors for safety support imho. I would expect dinghy sailors to get organised and provide RIB cover. (I sail dinghies now having previously helmed yachts in 7 RTIR's).
The reports of radio traffic sound a tad disappointing to me, it has lowered my opinion of HMCG a notch. Of course it may be that only they have the full picture, because they would have coverage all round the island, whereas a yacht would only get local traffic. Perhaps they should be asked to give their side of it. Maybe race participants should raise this via ISC?
To me biggest fear in this race is head injury from gybes or other injury from collisions. Too many boats in a confined space, with the fear that many of them are not regular racers, so not predictable.
Falling off the boat shouldn't happen of course, but it's unlikely to be fatal. Due to the number of boats, it's likely that your own boat won't be best placed to pick you up, which makes more of an incident of it.
Casualty numbers are very low for the number of participants, I hope any injured get well soon. Nothing worthwhile is completely risk free though. Take care.
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Twister_Ken
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Even luckier that no one died in Saturday's RTIR which was a much bigger affair!
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Spars
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Reged: 12/11/2004
Posts: 354
Loc: Hants
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''Walk a mile in another man's shoes''.
It's easy for the 'cyber-yachtsmen' to sit at their PC's judging all, or to sit anchored off one of the bays with pork pie and G&T just showing what an expert they are but it's another thing being involved.
One man's Pan Pan is anothers Mayday and who are we to say the C.G. did a bad job?, all the incidents were dealt with and as Ex-Lifeboat Crew I would love to have been rostered on the 28th.!
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curve
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Reged: 09/02/2008
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Even luckier that no one died in Saturday's RTIR which was a much bigger affair!
Well spotted 
I think the Sunday race was the scramble to get home after a heavy night boozing in the regatta village.
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Racecruiser
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Reged: 13/09/2006
Posts: 136
Loc: Surrey
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Hmmm - must admit I have mixed feelings about this. Being a part of such a splendid event and having an exilerating race was great. While we had a few moments with broaches I have had more anxiety in winter/spring solent races and if you don't have a go how do you progress?
The conditions were not extreme (although wind and waves were up on the south side) and were well forecasted as I recall. We saw no boats in difficulty.
So for well found yachts (even small ones) I see no problem - I'm not so sure about skiffs and day boats but then again I saw a couple of Dragons and they seemed fine. Maybe ISC should reconsider skiffs and day boats although they tend to be well crewed by guys who know the ropes. Told you I had mixed feelings!
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flaming
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Reged: 24/03/2004
Posts: 1885
Loc: Southampton
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A capsize in a skiff shouldn't in itself be a mayday. From the picture it had a broken bowsprit, interested to know more. I think if you want to sail dinghies round the island, the day of the ISC RTIR is a bad choice. Bad form to rely on competitors for safety support imho. I would expect dinghy sailors to get organised and provide RIB cover.
Just as a point of order, the "skiff" that overturned is a modified Ultra 30 that has been fitted with a keel in order that it meets the stability requirements for sportsboats. I don't think that they would have thought ending up upside down was really a posibility, so the comparison with dinghys is not really a valid one.
Obviously something went quite badly wrong....
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