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LakeSailor
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Too Much Canvas?
      #1917917 - 04/07/2008 19:45

I've made the new mast to hang the laser sail on my trimaran and today I put it up.

Am I looking at a pitch-pole experience the first time I hit a wake in a decent breeze? The main hull is just 10 feet long.

The sail looks kinda big to me.





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BrendanS
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Re: Too Much Canvas? [Re: LakeSailor]
      #1917923 - 04/07/2008 19:49

Just make sure Mrs Lakesailor is there with the camera, as we will all want to see the pics of you catapulting through the air!


More seriously, will be interested to read how it performs.

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Re: Too Much Canvas? [Re: BrendanS]
      #1917926 - 04/07/2008 19:53

Slightly over the top I would say

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Re: Too Much Canvas? [Re: LakeSailor]
      #1917933 - 04/07/2008 19:59

It's more likely to bury the lee ama and capsize. I reckon you need longer poles for the amas and, for downwind sailing, a seat for the helmsman cantilevered out over the rudder.

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Re: Too Much Canvas? [Re: LakeSailor]
      #1917962 - 04/07/2008 20:32

That's gonna be a real handful in more than 10 knots of breeze.

( Should go like stink in a light breeze, though!! )

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Gin
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Re: Too Much Canvas? [Re: LakeSailor]
      #1917980 - 04/07/2008 20:50

Please permit a small digression .

I saw a Laser hull yesterday with a standard rig, but the middle-aged guy had added wings as on an International Moth.

He had a breeze of 15knots+ and was going like a train almost upright and without the usual acrobatics to keep it tracking.

Mind you when he got it wrong and the wing he was sitting on dipped into the oggin it did rather slow him a bit as well as a giving him a salt water enema!


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LakeSailor
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Re: Too Much Canvas? [Re: Gin]
      #1917987 - 04/07/2008 20:53

I think you may be suggesting I sit on the windward ama.
I'll just fall in. That's my style.

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Blueboatman
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Re: Too Much Canvas? [Re: LakeSailor]
      #1918012 - 04/07/2008 21:21

Cool !
I think (and I know f--- all about trimarans) that sensibly you need to provide very easy provision- ? sliding seat ? - to hike your weight out over the windward ama,with tiller extension and a ratcheted mainsheet for easy release to depower in the gusts..

Then,in extremis and if that arrangement all works ok, and it tracks straight but the wind increases more,....,if there is enough displacement volume in the leeward ama (doubtful ? ) to support the weight of you and all 3 hulls and rig,then if you have got it all right the boat can climb out of the water and ride on the one leeward ama. This assumes that the rudder continues to bite enough to maintain a straight line...
If you Youtube for flying multis,that is what they do (or dont,haha).
Even then you may drive the leeward ama under and then pitchpole,if it does not generate and maintain enough up thrust from forward motion..

You know what I am going to write next,dont you ?



Try it and see !

If it pitchpoles, consider reducing the available sail area little by little, or fitting spray rails to the amas to generate lift, or......go hydrofoil

My two ha'porth

I am envious in a nice sort of way,that is a fun project...


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Re: Too Much Canvas? [Re: Blueboatman]
      #1918013 - 04/07/2008 21:24

Quote:

I am envious in a nice sort of way,that is a fun project...





Absolutely, I'd be up there in a shot to be test pilot!

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Gin
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Re: Too Much Canvas? [Re: LakeSailor]
      #1918062 - 04/07/2008 22:02

I wouldn't dare to suggest anything.

It all looks far too vigorous for me, but I'm wondering if there is any empathy between a laser with a sort of tri outrigger advantage which is manageable and a tri with a laser rig as yet untested?


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