Actually I take the point you make about sailing schools and for that matter the charter market seriously because I would need to be looking at the lower end on price (30/35k) which would mean looking to the older harder used examples, so I will pay attention to the deck as you suggest. I have been 'chasing' the Warrior 35's available in the u.k. and not being able to make any deal on the few good examples, in the course of this my partner became less and less happy with the living space on the Warrior (we are in the process of selling up, cashing in..... but you can't live on my current boat), hence a 'rethink' and so the Sadler34 has come into the frame, anyone know of a deep fin version in the u.k. for sale for 30k?????