Thanks for trying Brendan, it didn't work.

I've been messing about with new progs I suspect that its one of those thats fouled things up cos if I go back to a restore point I set 3 weeks ago all is well.

So I'll start again from that restore point and go by process of elimination. Damned nuisance as theres lots of stuff. (memo to self; dont mess with things you don't understand!)

PS That Photo shop express is a nice find if only as a long stop backup for pics. 2 Gb very useful, Puzzled as it says it's for the states only, I lied and it's working perfectly.