Fireball
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13/05/2008 13:38
Re: "Liferaft" is it needed for coastal cruising in UK

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And all this is relevant is it?


Yes - it's your attitude to risks
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looks exactly like preaching to me.


Just making suggestions as to how to mitigate those risks
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"Me.... I am an adult, I can make my own decisions"

Seems to me, that you are making decisions for other people, who have no choice. Next time I get on a ferry in the Solent, I'll suggest to Whitelink, that they could save lots of overhead costs by leaving their liferafts ashore. Probably allow more passenger room as well.


The other adults DO have a choice ... they don't have to come aboard if they don't want to, they can (as I did say and you ignored) suggest the purchase of a LR if they wish.

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"I wouldn't think we'd be in the water for more than 30 minutes, and we quite often go for a swim anyway ... so no real issue there ... "

So, if you can guarantee that the survival time for 'everyone' on your boat if they are in the Solent at present must be at least 30 minutes, then not much point in any rescue services hurrying is there.


Can you guarantee that your LR will inflate? Can you guarantee that everyone will be able to get in it safely ... you are assuming that a LR = 100% safety guaranteed - which is bolx

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"My crew are all adults "

You still have a duty of care, regardless of their age.


Whilst I don't disagree with the statement I fail to see how this translates to "Must have a LR"

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"My Priorities are ensuring that our vessel and crew DO NOT encounter a situation where a liferaft is required."

So sadly, the Ouzo went down, with 3 crew dead, even though they would obviously have had similar priorities to the one your giving. Just proves, that thinking you have a priority doesn't eliminate risk. I assume you have not got any lifejackets either, since with this ethos, you will obviously never need them.



We do have LJ's (you really didn't bother reading my post did you - some instructor you must be!!)

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"but don't consider me (and thousands of others) an idiot just because I don't concur with your way of thinking."

1) don't consider that you speak for or represent thousands of others!


I don't speak on behalf of thousands of others - they have their own voice, however, I do KNOW there are thousands of others who do not consider LR a necessity for them

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2) I didn't specifically mention you were an idiot, however if its a term you wish to adopt, feel free to use it.

In the end, if you are prepared (as you obviously are) to compromise on safety, I sincerely hope you continue to have such luck.


I suggest you don't ever go out of your house, and even then you will be compromising on safety ... nothing is 100% safe, nothing ever will be ... and I'd hate to live in the sanitised world that you appear to dream of.


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