| Kitten_Felix |
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| 03/05/2008 01:31 |
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Morning to all, may the sun and winds bring happiness to all whom require.
In my line we are taught never start with an apology. Well I am looking to leave my line so I will.
Sorry if this is a bit off or deep for this link, but just a question before I burn the bridges.
I have done the finances crunched the figures. It is do-able but hey I aint met a problem that aint.
My question is, are there many ex forces out there in cruiser land?
I am not looking after staying with the lifestyle I have, just we can be a strange bunch. (I hope that’s why I will fit in with the cruiser lifestyle) we tend to be quite independent, willing to help others and always happy to just chill have a beer and listen to whatever till help is needed/asked for.
I have had a full career in the forces and now come to the end. This is a big step for me as I am sure it is for others that have taken the leap. (lol I am still double space the full stops) in the little sailing I have been lucky enough to have, I have come across various peeps. And met some really really nice people, and also some others.
From what I read in the forums the cruiser life is very similar to forces life. Hardship, friendship and commitment. I just hope that I can bring to your party the relevant quals.
So I suppose my question is any ex forces out there (no matter how ex) who could give a newbie to civvie life a few hints of even a NAAFI boost, (kick up the ass) like I have mentioned the maths work, the will is there, I have wanted to do this for 30 years or so, just the hesitation to cast off the last shore line.
Think I am so used to the "bar support network" that it scares me to go play in the real world.
Like I said sorry if this is not the right forum for this fred, but liveaboard is what I aspire to be. So all advice, ditties or just comments would be welcome. Thankyou in advance.
The sad thing is I look at Stingo’s site and it makes me smile. He did it/ does it, not always sunshine but he set’s off again. Fair winds to ya if you read this.
And for those that have done it.. I Salute you, save a space for me at the bar, I will catch you up. (wind and god willing)
| Nich39Nige |
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| 03/05/2008 08:06 |
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Welcome Smudge,
I'm ex Andrew but a long time ex.........left in '80. Semi retired 3 years ago to go cruising but marital strife has me back at work (just to re-finance).
Boat's in Trinidad, I'm working on the Oil and Gas patch in Tunisia.
You are right about cruiser life, I know many ex-forces from many countries and the help, humour and friendship is second to none. (Even down to the good humoured wind-ups!) I have ex tiffs, squaddies, Majors and naval Captains amongst my good sailing friends, all of whom are as good as it gets.
Glad you can join us.
Prepare to slip and proceed, it's a great world out here.
| Eeyore |
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| 03/05/2008 08:56 |
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Agree with Nige. I left the Andrew in '74, now over-wintered in Turkey with great ex mob mates. PM sent!
Good to have you aboard.
| highandry |
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| 03/05/2008 09:04 |
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Hello Smudge,
I've been cruising since coming out in 1998. My wife died just over a year before I came out, kids grown up, nice house and all the feckin' plans out of the window. Now WTF do I do? Prot man for some fat millionaire? Go on the circuit riding shotgun for some civvy firm in sandy places? I'd been a merchant seaman before changing jobs, so I decided to go back to sea, only in my own boat this time. Never regretted it, as Nich says you meet all sorts and personally I've found crossing oceans gives a 'buzz' which in a way replaces that which I had grown used to living with prior to retirement.
If you're concerned about finances,I've found life a lot less expensive abroad and that's without living too spartan, but staying out of expensive marinas and flash resturants etc:I manage on a pension around £900 a month give or take a bit, if that helps, although I'm always single handed so you might have to adjust that. I do all my own maintenance except electronics (which is easy 'cos I've only got GPS
) Without jeopardizing safety you don't need lot's of shiny kit. A lot of boats full of flash comms/water makers/R.E.M.E type electrics never in fact go very far...You have done enough to know how to weed out the BS merchants, once you've done that you will find loads of great folk living the life. Get stuck in Mate.
| anteak |
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| 03/05/2008 09:06 |
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Yes, there are lots of us out there although I am taking a year away from it to do a boatbuilding course. Only as an indulgence - not to make a living out of it.
You will love it. I brought my 46ft steel ketch from Portugal to Lymington last June. As crew I took my cousin - also ex Army. He had never sailed before, threw up for the entire trip, lived on deck on dry bread and fags the whole way, never missed a watch, jumped ashore at Lymington and, after 5 minutes, offered to do the trip again if necessary.
I could have asked for no more.
Do it small and do it now. As Pete Goss said - tomorrow is too late.
| jonic |
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| 03/05/2008 10:19 |
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Quote:
(I hope that’s why I will fit in with the cruiser lifestyle) we tend to be quite independent, willing to help others and always happy to just chill have a beer and listen to whatever till help is needed/asked for.
Welcome to the club! Sounds like you're fully qualified based on the above.
SWMBO not ex forces but comes from long line of forces families. Quite a few of our cruising friends are ex-Raf.
Hope to meet you in an Anchorage for a beer somewhere. Our stuff can be found by clicking on my sig below then on cruising blog.
Fair winds
| Forbsie |
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| 03/05/2008 11:40 |
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Current and ex-forces are massing across the river from me, at this moment, awaiting the start of this year's Army v Navy Match.
I am positive that quite a few will be taking to the water before the afternoon is out.
| Captainslarty |
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| 03/05/2008 12:47 |
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I am ex andrew too - a long time ago...
the forces life style will be a great benefit to you, no doubt at all. The independence is the thing that one needs to be happy in this game.
No worries, you will be delerious.
Joe n Jayne
| Bejasus |
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| 03/05/2008 13:59 |
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Welcome. There are quite a few ex Forces hereabouts and from experience, many around the world. The lifestyle seems to attract. I am ex REME, as is CCScott49, another liveaboard around here. You will be in good company if this is what you choose to do. I think it has something to do with the fact that as ex services, you will be an independant thinker, able to make decisions in the heat of the moment and also be able to 'fix' problems as they arise.
| curve |
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| 03/05/2008 14:00 |
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I have sailed with one skipper who was ex-forces. He was a top bloke. And I would trust him to keep me safe anywhere.
Im sure you'll have a fantastic time.
Fair winds.
| lenseman |
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| 03/05/2008 18:02 |
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Welcome
Are you thinking of starting a Grey Funnel / Andrew forum?
| Captainslarty |
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| 03/05/2008 18:29 |
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Aha Pussers fags n rum.. with a grey funnel.. or mizzen.. what a great idea..
Perhaps we could share blue liners ???
And make the chief with four stripes admit he had 12 years of undetected crime ??
| lenseman |
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| 03/05/2008 18:36 |
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Blue-liners @ 3/4d a hundred or ½lb tin of GV!!
Those were the days.
| Captainslarty |
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| 03/05/2008 18:43 |
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yup, but in '73 we were limited to 300 a week. !! tight barstewards... but. no worries, at the rooftops in plymouth.. we got 10 bob a pack.. so it was good...
D141146A Sir, cap at side.. pay parade.. 14 quid for two weeks....
| lenseman |
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| 03/05/2008 18:47 |
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Jeeeez . . . a Nosser!
You were Devonport coded for welfare, I was Pompey.
Mine started P07xxxx and was 1962 vintage.
| reginaldon |
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| 03/05/2008 22:32 |
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I went back to '49/50 + Reserve time as a NS scribe - Guz rating of course - Blue lines 9/- for 200, but tickler popular to smuggle out of Jagos under the matelots' bell bottoms. Pay - 4/- per diem as an OD 6/6, plus KUA as Able rate, Admiral of the Fleet 180/- . The Aussie able Rates were getting the same daily pay as our Lieutenants.
| Nich39Nige |
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| 04/05/2008 07:36 |
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LCA D162530U reporting for duty! Guz rating, small ships.....Type 21's now residing at the bottom of San Carlos water!
| reginaldon |
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| 04/05/2008 10:05 |
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My No. DMX 867830 D -Guz of course M -Miscellaneous and X - joined after 1925! In the SCO in Jagos we discharged a Chief Shipwright to Shore, who had joined barracks early in 1939 and we discharged him - he had not left barracks since that time! Must have had friends in the Drafting Office.
Whenever we were picked up by the belt and gaiter brigade - Gash POs or Chiefs they were trying to find jobs for, for some misdemeanour eg caps flat aback or hands in pockets, we were asked our rating - answer Writer, next question - 'Place of duty?' the answer we gave was always the same, a truculent - 'Drafting Office. why?' - answer -'Carry on!'
| TugWilson |
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| 04/05/2008 10:49 |
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Welcome
Are you thinking of starting a Grey Funnel / Andrew forum?
Now theres an idea.we could break it down to AB-DABS for the raggies and Stokers for the MoBos.What ya think?
| UncleAlbert |
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| 04/05/2008 10:51 |
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I was in the mob….did a lot of my time on diesel boats and one of my proudest possessions is my `dolphins`
I still sometimes forget myself and climb out of my car through the sunroof…..
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| Nich39Nige |
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| 04/05/2008 11:15 |
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And writers, jack dusties, cooks and stewards?
No mixey blots! Six that you old bugger
| TugWilson |
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| 04/05/2008 11:19 |
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And writers, jack dusties, cooks and stewards?
No mixey blots! Six that you old bugger
| highandry |
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| 04/05/2008 11:19 |
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UncleAlbert, you're the only bloke on the forum who calls his foredeck the 'casing' and I thought there was something dodgy about you, keep blinking in the daylight like that...
| lenseman |
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| 04/05/2008 12:10 |
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I still sometimes forget myself and climb out of my car through the sunroof…..…
BRILLIANT!
ps, not HMS Brilliant.
| cerro |
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| 04/05/2008 19:39 |
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I am ex Marine 7years and 5years on the reserve a long time ago mind, and I sail a 36 foot boat single handed at 74 years old. Hopeing to head for Majorca soon. So go for it and good luck Cerro
| BigART |
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| 05/05/2008 00:05 |
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From what I read in the forums the cruiser life is very similar to forces life. Hardship, friendship and commitment.
Spot on. I would also add fantastic times too. You are ideally equipped. Best of luck.
Angus
ex-RAF
| Debutante21Sixpence |
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| 05/05/2008 01:21 |
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Alright Dave, you've finally managed to drag me kicking and screaming into the liveaboard forum
I must admit I'm surprised at how many ex forces are in here, though thinking about it, there is some sense in that. The forces seems to build a certain level of tolerance and an easy going attitude, whilst turning out people that would bend over backwards to help someone in trouble. Which seems to fit in nicely with the liveaboard way of life
Dreaming of doing it, but wife isn't forces based so don't tell everyone
Dave
Ex RAF
G8136***
Fairy by job description, not by natural selection
| lenseman |
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| 05/05/2008 01:30 |
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I'm surprised at how many ex forces are in here
We are "a Force to be reckoned with"
| Debutante21Sixpence |
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| 05/05/2008 01:33 |
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Oh we are that
I think a lot of the forces humour gets twisted around elsewhere and people bite back at something they view as offensive, where most of us just accept it the way it is intended, and that's just for starters
| reginaldon |
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| 05/05/2008 07:13 |
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And writers, jack dusties, cooks and stewards?
No mixey blots! Six that you old bugger
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At the yacht (and motorboat) club, the ex stoker, ex ERA, and ex scribe are all raggies, but round here the others were both Chatham ratings.
NB you didn't mention the sick berth tiffies.
| Eeyore |
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| 06/05/2008 17:07 |
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Like David (Lenseman) mine started 07**** but a Guz rating.
So we've got the blue liners and the grog.......what time does the uckers start on the foredeck?
| HoratioHB |
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| 06/05/2008 21:06 |
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I was a WAFU and I am not going to say what that stands for!
| Kitten_Felix |
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| 06/05/2008 23:32 |
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hi all again, well great to see so many out there. thanks all for the replies. made me smile and gave me a boost. one more tour then i'll come and join ya all. good to see the sense of humor will translate, really looking forward to joining the pack. cheers all.