alan006
(regular)
15/06/2008 11:00
Where can I get a bronze A frame fabricated

I was unlucky enough to have thieves steal some parts from my Osbourne that I'm restoring. They took the starboard prop, shaft and bronze A frame that were under the boat whilst I was working on them.
Luckily I have the port fittings so I can take all the measurements from them to get replacements made up.
Does anyone know where I could get a bronze A frame made?
Its a little bit annoying as my guess is they will sell them as scrap for about £100 or so and it will cost me about £3000 to replace them.
If any of you are doing work on your classics may I suggest you store all these sort of bits very safely, the price of scrap is so high these days it is too tempting for these scallywags.


Tranona
(regular)
15/06/2008 12:15
Re: Where can I get a bronze A frame fabricated

Try Teignbridge Propellers www.teignbridge.co.uk They may well have made the originals, although they also may have come from Hamble Foundry, who I think are no longer in business.

LakeSailor
(regular)
15/06/2008 12:29
Re: Where can I get a bronze A frame fabricated

I think scallywags is a bit of a deodorised terms for the shitbags.

alan006
(regular)
15/06/2008 13:40
Re: Where can I get a bronze A frame fabricated

Thank you for your suggestion Tranona, I will give them a try.
I take your point Lakesailer, it is an unexpected extra expense on the ongoing project. Still, these things happen and I am refusing to let it discourage me.


dorado22
(regular)
15/06/2008 13:53
Re: Where can I get a bronze A frame fabricated

alan i would go round the local scrap yards as possible thats where they went

Niander
(regular)
15/06/2008 16:44
Re: Where can I get a bronze A frame fabricated

Man i feel for you....but i would never have left them lying around

How can you be so .... about a 3 grand bill?....


downthecreek
(regular)
15/06/2008 17:08
Re: Where can I get a bronze A frame fabricated

I think Colin Frake may do bronze fabrication

http://www.oldgaffersassociation.org/_sgg/m9m2_1.htm


Tranona
(regular)
15/06/2008 18:13
Re: Where can I get a bronze A frame fabricated

Clements Marine www.clementsmarine.co.uk is another possibility

alan006
(regular)
15/06/2008 19:43
Re: Where can I get a bronze A frame fabricated

Thank you everyone for your suggestions, I will try them.
Niander you are of course right to say they should have been more securely stored,however the thieves did cut through a chain fence to remove the bits.
I don't see the point in getting too despondant about it. It won't change the outcome. Perhaps I'm mellowing as I get older.


Niander
(regular)
15/06/2008 21:47
Re: Where can I get a bronze A frame fabricated

Tis gud not to gt stressed
good luck on getting it sorted...


lenseman
(regular)
15/06/2008 23:11
Re: Where can I get a bronze A frame fabricated

Please make sure these scumbags don't return in the future for the port fitting!

Peterduck
(regular)
16/06/2008 00:18
Re: Where can I get a bronze A frame fabricated

I would make sure that every scrap metal dealer within a large radius from your yard knows that these items have been stolen. Our law requires that scrap metal or any secondhand dealer gets details of who they are buying from. They usually get this from a driver's licence, not just verbally. This makes it easier for the pollis to go and visit them.
Peter.


lenseman
(regular)
16/06/2008 01:27
Re: Where can I get a bronze A frame fabricated

Quote:

. . . . it will cost me about £3000 to replace them.



Have you considered fabricating the mould yourself based on the "Lost Wax Principle"?

At that sort of cost (£3,000), if you made the mound with guidance from a foundry, you could take it along to them once made and let them pour in the molten metal for you. All you would then need it to fettle the moulding.

Not really as difficult as it sounds.


Tranona
(regular)
16/06/2008 10:29
Re: Where can I get a bronze A frame fabricated

Pretty sure that a trawl round the stern gear manufacturers will find an existing pattern that can be used. Alternatively for a one off a fabricated SS one might be more economic.

kittern
(regular)
16/06/2008 11:48
Re: Where can I get a bronze A frame fabricated

Sounds like b*stard pikeys ... the police will do nothing, like they did for me once ... they're afraid of them!

Seanick
(regular)
18/06/2008 18:47
Re: Where can I get a bronze A frame fabricated

I really sympathize with you having those bits stolen. A few months ago a freind had all his deck hardware stolen from under his Quay Punt he is rebuilding. All beautiful wrought iron fittings, hard to replace and accuratley reproduce. The arseholes probably got a tenner down the scrappy. You really can't leave any metal unattended these days.
Howarth Foundry are good at casting bronze from an existing piece or make a new pattern.


rikgraham
(new user)
19/06/2008 21:23
Re: Where can I get a bronze A frame fabricated

The cheapest option would be to make a pattern yourself and have one, cast this is almost certainly how the original was made. Check how much to allow for shrinkage and do not worry how much filler you use to get a good finish. The pattern itself has to be fairly robust but a reasonable joiner should have no major problems.

alan006
(regular)
20/06/2008 09:41
Re: Where can I get a bronze A frame fabricated

Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. I think I'll have a go myself as people have suggested.

meldrum
(regular)
22/06/2008 19:28
Re: Where can I get a bronze A frame fabricated

I'd recommend 'classic marine'
lime Kiln Quay,Woodbridge,Suffolk,IP12 1BD.
They also have a web site I cant remember the address but google them and you should find it.
They made a mast tabernacle for me to my drawings about 5 years ago the galvanising still shows no sign of rust. their work was of a high quality, accurate and reasonably priced. £130+vat inc delivery if I remember. I also bought several bronze deck fittings from them of their own manufacture at the same time
again no problems just the usual patina build up.They also do custom bronze fabrication.
I have no tie to them am just very pleased with the quality and service


TrueBlue
(regular)
28/06/2008 18:25
Re: Where can I get a bronze A frame fabricated

After all the obviously sensible answers, I'm prompted to suggest the Whitechapel Bell Foundry, principally because -

They work in bronze (but probably not marine grade,
they are in London - and may be the nearest port of call for you??

Indeed it might not be such a daft suggestion as it first appears.



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