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ChartScrubba
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What makes a Classic - Classic
      #1014594 - 09/04/2006 16:13

Or do you just mean old and knackered?

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Mariposa
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Re: What makes a Classic - Classic [Re: ChartScrubba]
      #1014614 - 09/04/2006 16:34

No. Just created by craftsmen and maintained with dedication. Not popped out of a jelly mould by some adolescent on a youth training scheme.

And before those with GRP classics leap down my throat, there are several GRP yachts created by craftsmen and maintained with dedication. Not popped out of a jelly mould by some adolescent on a youth training scheme.

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LakeSailor
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Re: What makes a Classic - Classic [Re: ChartScrubba]
      #1014716 - 09/04/2006 18:34

It gets asked a lot, this question.
No good answers yet.

I reckon it must involve the regard in which the craft was held when it was new.
If people thought it was a beauty, and leader in it's class, a real gem, then as an old lady it must be a Classic.

The parrallel can be drawn with cars. An E-Type, a Mini Cooper S, a Lagonda with a hand-built cabrio body, an MGTD, A Triumph 1800 Roadster, a Rover 3 Litre. Many cars have a long history of being revered and sought after, or just plain held in esteem and are Classics now.

An A40 Farina, a Morris 1000, a Ford Cortina?

Certainly not Classics.

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Re: What makes a Classic - Classic [Re: LakeSailor]
      #1015239 - 10/04/2006 11:07

Just to complicate matters...

Run-of-the mill Cortina: Absolutely Not

Lotus Cortina (white with the olive green stripe) : Yes!

Like the man said - it's all in the eye of the beholder.


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Re: What makes a Classic - Classic [Re: LakeSailor]
      #1015277 - 10/04/2006 11:52

Quote:

I reckon it must involve the regard in which the craft was held when it was new.
If people thought it was a beauty, and leader in it's class, a real gem, then as an old lady it must be a Classic.

The parrallel can be drawn with cars. An E-Type, a Mini Cooper S, a Lagonda with a hand-built cabrio body, an MGTD, A Triumph 1800 Roadster, a Rover 3 Litre. Many cars have a long history of being revered and sought after, or just plain held in esteem and are Classics now.

An A40 Farina, a Morris 1000, a Ford Cortina?

Certainly not Classics.




Victorious was built.. down to a price..nailed together . as a workboat...With an expected lifespan of only a decade or two... one of many.... No "outstanding" workmanship....Very rough indeed if compared to an A40..... is she not a classic?


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Manx_Nobby
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Re: What makes a Classic - Classic [Re: ChartScrubba]
      #1016215 - 11/04/2006 09:31

I think te word 'classic' is greatly over used and as has been said, almost impossible to define.

For my part I have no idea whether White Heather justifies the title 'Classic Boat' or not, I dont think I have ever used it.

To me White Heather is just my boat, my old boat, a member of my family, my occasional home, my place of tranquility, my source of pride and satisfaction and I am her current keeper, one of a long line so far and I hope, unless I make a big cock up, part of a line that will extend well into the future.

To me this phrase is more a marketing type phrase - NOW I have set the cat amongst the pigeons!!!

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LakeSailor
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Re: What makes a Classic - Classic [Re: Huffin]
      #1016267 - 11/04/2006 10:45

Lotus Cortina qualifies "leader in it's class, a real gem,"

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LakeSailor
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Re: What makes a Classic - Classic [Re: Victorious]
      #1016273 - 11/04/2006 10:50

Victorious is a beautifully restored example of a work boat. I think you've done a fantastic job.
But I'm not convinced she is a Classic.

I've restored an old Heron dinghy (50 this year). It's not a classic. It's a nicely restored Heron dinghy.

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Mirelle
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Nice Old Boats. [Re: LakeSailor]
      #1016304 - 11/04/2006 11:22

I have a Nice Old Boat.

And I am more than happy with that.


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Re: Nice Old Boats. [Re: Mirelle]
      #1016311 - 11/04/2006 11:28

Snap, Mirelle!
Peter.


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