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Future of boating after the loss of derogation, is it single engines?
      #1110600 - 20/07/2006 18:45

I was speaking with a dealer today who views the future of boating as more hard tops, and single engines for economy, this apparently is due to the fact people are getting fed up with canvas's and fuel increases.

Could this be true, and if so what size boat could you go to with a single engine?

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Do you think more people will choose to have one engine?
You may choose 2
Yes
No
Are you fed up with canvas's
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Re: Future of boating after the loss of derogation, is it single engines? [Re: GC1]
      #1110630 - 20/07/2006 19:19

You can go as big as you want single engined. Many supertankers and container ships are!

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Re: Future of boating after the loss of derogation, is it single engines? [Re: GC1]
      #1110649 - 20/07/2006 19:48

You forgot a twin sails option.........

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Re: Future of boating after the loss of derogation, is it single engines? [Re: Colin]
      #1110654 - 20/07/2006 19:57

If diesel prices doubled to £1 a litre what would you do, bearing in mind the market would be flooded with boats with big engines :-
I diesel went to £1 a litre I would
You may choose 1
Keep boating as normal
Sell and downsize my boat
Use my boat less
Move to cheaper moorings
Sell up and become a raggie
Sell up and give up boating


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Re: Future of boating after the loss of derogation, is it single engines? [Re: GC1]
      #1110660 - 20/07/2006 20:03

Not sure about this. Some 5/6 years ago we were paying 23/25p per litre of red diesel, now you are lucky to find it much under 50p - double! Did it cause a major swing to single engine boats - not sure that there's much evidence of that?. If derogation does take place, then for sure the cost will almost double again,but I doubt if it will turn the minds of many - at least amongst the boat owners I know.

Actually there is one, who frequents this forum from time to time, but he's spent the cost of several tankfuls of diesel fitting extra filterage etc to reduce the risk of it all going quiet half way across the Channel. I think it's the fear of this happening that will make many (most?) think twice about dumping one engine.

So, will it cause peeps to go single engine?? I personally doubt it, especially those who go a little further afield.

Every time Gordon puts another few pence on beer and fags, many say "that's it, I'm packing in". But do they? No, not for prices' sake anyway.

I personally believe things will carry on pretty much as they are now, though those with twin engines might not go so far, or travel at a more economical pace. Of course, those that sell singled engine boats will be doing their best to talk them up!!


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Re: Future of boating after the loss of derogation, is it single engines? [Re: nicho]
      #1110667 - 20/07/2006 20:10

I agree with you, look at the forecourt prices and are there any less cars on the road? No. As for the loss of derogation and how doom, gloom and armagedon was portrayed in the report to the government was nothing short of nonsense, if I was on the other side I would put forward exactly the same argument as you, yes fuel was 3 yrs ago 23p a liltre now 54p and the Solent is still packed out.

Maybe a few people in the wrong boat e.g. big engines they can't afford to fire up, but behind them are queue's of new people with enough money to run them who perhaps are waiting for the inevetable bargains that will appear if doom and gloom does happen for those in unaffordable boats. The dealers will be making a killing so more business for them, just need some clarity asap as the market seems pretty quiet at the moment on new boats.

Let's see what the poll says


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Re: Future of boating after the loss of derogation, is it single engines? [Re: GC1]
      #1110694 - 20/07/2006 20:36


I bought the 28 with the view that Red would probably disappear at some point, later if not sooner. The consumption of my twin KAD32's at a fast cruise (3000rpms = 20litres/hr each = 40litres/hr) wouldn't be much different from one D6-350 (2800rpms = 38litres/hr). The big single would be a bit faster, but we're not talking huge differences here.

350hp is 350hp, okay apart from when its 340hp, but it's close enuf, you know what I mean...

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Re: Future of boating after the loss of derogation, is it single engines? [Re: S28]
      #1110700 - 20/07/2006 20:41

What about servicing costs, engine and legs? I reckon on £1,500 per year for both, that includes legs once every two years, never mind the cost of the additional engine in the first place.

Hmm, perhaps he WAS talking sense


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Re: Future of boating after the loss of derogation, is it single engines? [Re: GC1]
      #1110720 - 20/07/2006 20:53

Everybody vote for 6 just in case the government are watching.

If they get a hint that you will pay even a penny more they will put 2p on


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Re: Future of boating after the loss of derogation, is it single engines? [Re: Frontier]
      #1110727 - 20/07/2006 20:57

Do you realise it is an offence to try and influence voters at the poll, please observe the importance of this vital piece of research for my psychology phd

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