Nautical
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Reged: 24/02/2005
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Loc: IOM - Hamble - SoF
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Well chums, just back and left the guys to finish and pack up today.
As usual a massive show 16 halls in all and each about the size of LIBS which kinda gives you an idea of the size of the thing. There maybe 20,000 people or more milling about at any one time but because the place is so huge it feels very quiet yet if you put them all together in LIBS the place would be bursting at the doors.
Typical German organisation, everything well thought out and spotlessly clean, even the food is half reasonable, aisles are really wide so you can bumble along admiring everything without people pushing past and knocking into you. Nearly all the stands are very welcoming and bar a few exceptions which unfortunately have to say some were British stands you can mill about and have a shufty at everything.
I shall start off with the Nordhavn 43 and then post part 2, 3, etc as there will be too many pictures for one post and some on dial up will be forever trying to download the page.
Nordhavn guys from Hamble....excellent bunch of chaps, very knowledgeable and very passionate about the product, overall I would say they were the busiest stand at the show.
Of course lots of you will have looked over a Nordhavn before but for those of you that haven't nothing quite prepares you for the gravitas of the thing, it is just monsterously built, pitch a Nordhavn against a semi submerged container and my money would be on the Nordhavn. Everything is built to take the worst amount of punishment you can give it, if you ever own of these you will never be able to use the excuse the weather was too bad to go, gale 8? no problem just bimble out to deepish water set auto pilot, on with the stabilizers and sit back and enjoy! have a cup of tea, even have a bit of a sleep if you want (subject of course to someone on watch).
This is the 43 which will be heading back to Hamble on her own bottom next week.
The chaps at Hamble have kindly invited us out on a sea trial in about ten days  so second report to come on her on what she is really like at sea.........
Give me a while to get the next report uploaded, going to have a lay down for a while, me feet are bu88ered and my back has had it from days on end standing and walking bloody miles.....old f4rt that I am
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powersalt
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Reged: 17/10/2005
Posts: 777
Loc: East coast
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great pics. Thanks for sharing. Any more of down below. I just loved that stairway.
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AlistairR
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Reged: 12/12/2002
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Loc: North Ayrshire/ Loch Lomond.
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great pics and report as usual Trev.
Looking forward to the rest.
Cheers
Al.
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mikef
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Reged: 16/05/2001
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Loc: chesham, bucks
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Fantastic pics, trev. Great detailing by Nordhavn on the foredeck. Looking forward to your seatrial report
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MapisM
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Reged: 11/03/2002
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Loc: Italy
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pitch a Nordhavn against a semi submerged container and my money would be on the Nordhavn.
Just say how much, and I'll put mine on the container anytime.
It's not so relevant how strong the hull structure is. GRP, not being flexible, is bound to crack.
For oceanic passages, steel is the only way to go imho.
Besides, what is driving that prop on port side? The genny maybe?
If so, it's good to know that modern diesels are very reliable.
I wouldn't fancy being left with that propulsion only in gale 8 - and maybe the stabs not working because connected to the main engine?
Overall, definitely a nice boat, though.
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Bajansailor
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Reged: 27/12/2004
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Loc: Barbados (East coast)
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She does look rather gorgeous - and that stairway is a work of art - but I wonder why the instrument console in the wheelhouse is so high? It looks like the top could easily be a few inches lower, and that would make it easier for not so tall folk to see the bow from the helm.
My money would be on a motorsailer version though, if they ever brought one out - that bigger M/S does look rather nice as well, some very neat ideas ref her on the Nordhavn webpage.
And my money would also be on the floating submerged container, if the poor Nordhavn had the misfortune to have a tussle with one.......
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mikef
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Reged: 16/05/2001
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Loc: chesham, bucks
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Mapism, the prop on the side is generally called a wing engine and is usually driven by a small separate engine not the gennie
Regarding single props, if they are so unreliable why are most commercial ships and fishing trawlers single props? Stabilizers are not for safety, they are for comfort so whether or not they work in a F8 is not a life or death issue.
Based on my present knowledge, if I wanted to go out in a F8 gale, I think I'd choose a Nordhavn to do it in
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michael_w
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Reged: 08/10/2005
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Loc: South London
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What's the chrome fitting on the stem for? Surely she's a bit big to lash on a trailer.
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Bajansailor
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Reged: 27/12/2004
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Loc: Barbados (East coast)
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If I wanted to go out in a F8 gale in a Mobo (and I have been in one), my first choice would be any of the RNLI lifeboats - the seakeeping qualities of the olders Arun and Waveney classes are legendary, while the newer boats like the Severn and Trent class vessels are amazing - I will always remember going out on sea trials off Poole on FAB 3, the Severn prototype, and bashing into a F 7 doing 25 knots...... we needed seatbelts on in the wheelhouse, otherwise we would have been hitting the roof with the G forces.....
But my 2nd choice would definitely be a Nordhavn or similar.
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MapisM
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Reged: 11/03/2002
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Loc: Italy
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I'm with Banjansailor on lifeboats.
If you really NEED to play that hard, not only seat belts, but also self righting capability is a must. That's actually a different league.
But there are pleasure trawlers which - with regard to safety - I'd put before Nordhavn in my wish list. Just a few names by heart:
- Kanter
- Moloka'i Strait
- Cape Horn
- Real Ships
- Pacific Motoryacht
Mind, that's mainly because - as I said - cruising on a plastic hull at night in the middle of an ocean is something I'd never be comfortable with, regardless of GRP thickness. Other than that, I do like the Nordhavn.
Re. single engines, who said they're unreliable? I actually told the opposite.
It's the arrangement of the get home system which I'd be concerned about, regardless of whether it's driven by a biggish genny or a dedicated wing engine.
I tried once - just for the sake of simulation - to helm a heavy displacement boat with reduced power and asymmetrical thrust in a F5/F6. Believe me, it's a nightmare.
Being in a F8 sea with hundreds of miles to go, and only that sort of get home system available, that's a clear-cut case for a mayday imho.
And of course "stabs are for comfort".
That's why they're also important, particularly in a very long passage... 
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