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KBT
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Re: Tush, Tush! [Re: china]
      #1799200 - 25/03/2008 21:53

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please dont get those rowers mixed up with us canoists and kayakers, we are aa friendly lot.

those rowers are unfriendly to us too. what a bunch of s***bags. never mind it could be worse, you could be them. imagine having to live their lives or be in their head with all that snobbery and money earning pressure.

we go out on the water to relax and a lot of them go out on the water to be competative and to be realy stressfull.

we just stick to the collision regs and try to keep out of their way.

if it happens again, you can always get on the vhf and tell the harbour master or marine support and report them. they definatly deserve it.

i would want to rip their heads off.

have a nice week.

alex.




I,ve met a lot of great 'more friendly' canoists who would be very saddened by your narrowmindedness Alexandra!
Why do you think they are all rich snobs?, and unless you are more of a machoman than you seem, I think you would find quite a few heads difficult to 'rip off' without encountering more than a little resistance. Bill.


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Re: Mobo's cause mayhem on tidal Thames today [Re: KBT]
      #1799201 - 25/03/2008 21:54

I very rarely cause a wash , i'm never in a rush to get anywhere and as Cuchilo is a river cruiser she doesnt give alot off anyway . I think the problem is that some of the bigger boats give off alot of wash even on tick over and on tick over they have no or very little control . So if you are in a group and the ten boats in front of you have had to give some power to move away from the rowers you at the back are left with having to give more power to now get out of the rowers way and battle the wash the others have left just to have some kind of control over the boat . Myself i just plod along and let everyone else get on with it but still get shouted at by rowers .

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Re: Tush, Tush! [Re: TrueBlue]
      #1799205 - 25/03/2008 21:57

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Beaten by Harleyford - heavens






That is exactly what upset them and cause them to act like football yobbos. The fact that a 'fun' club that doesn't take itself seriously had beaten them in a boat handling competition.

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Re: Mobo's cause mayhem on tidal Thames today [Re: Coastgal]
      #1799231 - 25/03/2008 22:17

Wonder if it was the the same bunch of gentlemen who caused all the problems when we were berthed in Chelsea Haven last Easter.
They left St kats and then came up past Chelsea pier at a fair rate of knots causing serious wash.From (hazy)recollection several very large 40ft plus luxobarges including mebbe a big newish Broom ?.


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Re: Tush, Tush! [Re: TrueBlue]
      #1799450 - 26/03/2008 09:14

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What about a burgee - heads of EA and Boat Scheme managers on a trident (vacant prong for GBrown?).






ROFLMAO. Nearly tipped coffee into my lap!

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GrantK
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Re: Mobo's cause mayhem on tidal Thames today [Re: Coastgal]
      #1800902 - 27/03/2008 12:48

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A few of us were down on our boats in Putney today doing a spot of maintenance, when a flotilla of club boats passed by at 2pm-ish. The first few boats created a small, manageable wash. However, the final three boats were speeding along and created a MASSIVE wash which sent bodies, tools and mugs flying.

But the poor bas tards in the coxed eight were practically swamped and got thoroughly soaked (the Oxford crews have been out practising all weekend). The rowers waved and shouted at the boats to slow down, but to no avail. They also did not respond to our hails on the radio, so we advised Teddington Lock of their poor conduct.

All the boats were flying a defaced Blue Ensign, and the last offending boat had a blue/black hull.

Please, please watch your wash. As it says in the PLA guide for Thames River users " "Be aware of what your wash is doing, both to other users and the banks and foreshore. If necessary, reduce your speed." ." Otherwise, it ruins the enjoyment for the rest of us and gives all Mobos a bad name.

OK - moan over. Just had to get that off my chest (after washing off the tea spilt down my shirt earlier ).




I don't normally get too worked up about this type of post. In fact I agree that all boat owners should show respect to other users and if this means slowing right down so be it. But the original post which I've quoted has stirred up a number of inaccurate and damaging responses.

Let me give some facts. The club mentioned by a number of posters i.e. TMYC had been to St Kats last weekend. They came back up river in three flotillas. One on Saturday, of which I was part. There were three boats in total, two of which are 30ft displacement craft and one larger vessel. The second and third flotillas came back on Sunday The first of these arrived at Hammersmith Bridge at 1330, therefore they could not have been the offending craft. The second flotilla consisted of two TMYC boats and a number of none TMYC boats. None of the TMYC boats has a dark blue or black hull. The two TMYC boats did not cause any adverse wash as they passed through Putney. However they were followed by three other craft, note that they were not TMYC, one of these boats was a very large craft with a high fly bridge, perhaps he was trying to get to Hammersmith before he lost the headroom. But that is not the responsibility of the TMYC. Byron keeps referring to an incident which occurred at the ATYC rally some years ago. What a memory he must have. I too was at that Rally as a member of another club, but that was about seventeen years ago and three boats ago. Does he think that it was the same boaters on Sunday as those who attended the ATYC rally all that time ago?

It should be remembered that the laws of defamation and libel apply equally to the internet. Before slinging mud one should ensure that ones allegations are accurate, with the facts not in dispute. I quote a piece I Googled before writing this post.
1. What are defamation and libel?

Defamation is any published material that damages the reputation of an individual or an organisation. This covers material on the internet as well as radio and television broadcasts - so even drama and fiction can be defamatory if they damage someone’s reputation. You can only publish defamatory material if it comes within one of the recognised legal defences. If it doesn’t, the publication will amount to libel and you may have to pay substantial damages.

Libel online


Slander is 'defamation by word of mouth'
Internet sites are not exempt from any libel laws. If you are publishing on the internet you are bound by the same libel laws as print publishers.

In a significant ruling in 2002, the Australian high court ruled that mining magnate Joseph Gutnick could sue publisher Dow Jones under Australian law for alleged libel online. The judge deemed that the web was no different from newspapers or television.

In the UK, internet service providers are coming under increasing pressure to close sites containing defamatory allegations. You also have to be careful about the comments others post on your site. There have been cases where individuals have sued online publishers for libel over customer book reviews published on their sites.

BTW, the hull of my boat is dark blue, but I returned on Saturday not Sunday.

Oh! and while I'm thinking of it. There is a photo of a very pretty red ensign and a jackstaff with a rooster on top published on Thames Thread. Is that a large wash I spy behind the ensign?


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GrantK
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Re: Mobo's cause mayhem on tidal Thames today [Re: Coastgal]
      #1800971 - 27/03/2008 13:40

Sorry! Got my facts wrong. I forgot that it was a bankholiday weekend . The days referred to should have been Sunday and Monday respectively. My most humble apologies

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Re: Mobo's cause mayhem on tidal Thames today [Re: GrantK]
      #1801143 - 27/03/2008 15:44

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Oh! and while I'm thinking of it. There is a photo of a very pretty red ensign and a jackstaff with a rooster on top published on Thames Thread. Is that a large wash I spy behind the ensign?




Do you mean my avatar? if you look carefully the White Cliffs of Dover are in the distance., thats a bit past Putney.
Not sure the tone of your post has done the TMYC any favours, but interesting to here another view.


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GrantK
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Re: Mobo's cause mayhem on tidal Thames today [Re: Chris_d]
      #1801206 - 27/03/2008 16:20

Hi Chris_D,
No I was not referring to your avatar. The wash I was referring to is the much more moderate one in the photo of the lost jackstaff and ensign with Windsor castle in the background. I felt that the tone of a couple of the previous posts was doing far more damage to the TMYC, as it turns out completely unjustified. One or two of them were in fact very inflammatory.
I think a strong reply to ill considered comments was justified.


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Re: Mobo's cause mayhem on tidal Thames today [Re: GrantK]
      #1801220 - 27/03/2008 16:28

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Sorry! Got my facts wrong. I forgot that it was a bankholiday weekend . The days referred to should have been Sunday and Monday respectively. My most humble apologies



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