Cuchilo
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The reason some people have thousands of postings to their name is because they have been Forumites from day one and before... YES before. The boating forums you see today are a reincarnation of ones started well over a decade ago and the post count was carried forward into the format you see today. Additionally they include postings in several other Forums.
Actually i have this many posts because i dont go to the pub every night and although i have 600 odd TV channels there is sod all on the TV . I also find you lot seriously informative and funny If having a life means having a blue flaggy thing then i am quite happy to have no life
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GrantK
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Ok! I'm hooked. Bullying was certainly not the intention. But, it might just make people think before they make wild accusations in a public forum. By all means make a case, but make it fairly and using all the facts. Don't just throw wild accusations around. That is 21st century bullying. I won't speculate about the blue/black hulled boat, but I do know that it was not a TMYC member. There are only two boats matching that description in the club, one is mine, the other is on a sales pontoon in a Thames marina.
BTW I'm not trying to 'make friends and influence people' I've got enough friends but if I can influence people not to tar all sheep with the same brush, I'll be happy.
One of the posts states that two of the boats went by without causing any problems. It was the following three which created the wash. Were they flying a blue ensign? if so, there are a large number of clubs and organisations allowed that privilege.
I am angry, that I'll admit, but, my anger is aimed at the few who have made the allegations in the thread personal and directed at a specific club, without the accusers having been there in person to witness the events.. I must add that I do not speak for the club in any official way. These are purely my own personal points of view.
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oldgit
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Hi Grant and thanks for your input.The fact remains that a number of skippers leaving St Kats caused problems that day and if my recall is correct,exactly the same type of thing occured over the Easter break last year as well . The sad thing is that the owners of this type of craft have presumably a few years experience under their belts and can therefore appreciate the problems caused.If the craft concerned can be indentified,perhaps some mention of keeping wash to a minimum could be mentioned at the next club AGM.
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Cuchilo
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All the boats were flying a defaced Blue Ensign, and the last offending boat had a blue/black hull.
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There are only two boats matching that description in the club, one is mine, the other is on a sales pontoon in a Thames marina.
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ARCMarineEveryman
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Shouldn't we just draw a line under this thread? I'm really pleased Grant has got involved in this forum, just a pity that anybody gets angry or upset. Or why don't we find another club to slag off? UTMYC? (run/hide!)
Grant & myself have been members of the Thames Vintage Boat Club for years, he's the current Commodore, and there are prob more problems with speeding members of the TVBC (fast slipper launches) than any other local club.
Having attended RUG meetings in previous years, it always struck me the the attending committee members from all sorts of clubs, rowers, boaters, fishing, etc, were all very pleasant and reasonable people. It was the actual members out on the river that would cause problems with one another.
So I don't think there's any answer than if you feel agrieved with some activity, take note of the full details and pass on to the EA (or PLA in this case).
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GrantK
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Now that is really interesting. TMYC was at Wraysbury last Easter. This is well documented and I have photos to show for it.
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Cuchilo
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Dont get me wrong , i have no interest in defaming or joining any club . I would rather spend a day/evening with a nice young lady , or old than be told where i have to be at what time The whole wash thing is really what people need to do on the river as i said before . The support boats for the rowers are just as bad as the skippers of mobos when they need to open up , if not worse and you also get the loud hailer at 7 am But thats the river and i just prefer to enjoy my little boat and ignore all the angry people
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byron
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if not worse and you also get the loud hailer at 7 am
This was the pet hate of the geezer that lived in the house just before Cleve lock. The ROBOs would come down from Wallingford and turn at his house. Here they would take a break while the Chase Boat bellowed at them through his loud hailer even though he was only a few feet away. This would happen at the most unearthly hours especially in the summer.
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TrueBlue
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It's very easy to create wash in the most unexpected places.
I spent my youth in Putney, and although the reach is wide - especially towards "Harrods suppository" - very tempting to open the taps a bit, it is very shallow near Fulham FC; the shoals stick up at low water.
There are swinging moorings near the boathouses which obscures view of one's wash.
For those who haven't seen the shape of the river at low water,it's easy to think that one can push on.
So not wanting to condone or decry, to my mind it's a case of "there but for the grace of... go I".
Part of the pleasure and responsibility when boating is trying to read the river, which is not so easy to do in a powerful vessel and where one is perched up on high. In a smaller boat, be it dinghy, scull, or cruiser one has less power and more aware of conditions. Flags of convenience have nothing to do with it.
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bradtarga34
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I thought there was a boat called 'Jolly Rotter' that had a black hull from TMYC, not sure if that is the case or if it is still at TMYC?
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