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AlistairM
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How do I treat this?
      #1832893 - 22/04/2008 08:56

The varnish on my small dinghy has flaked away leaving bare wood. Do I simply varnish straight on and sand untill a decent finish is achieved, or is something required in preparation. The boat is completly covered with a tarpaulin but "natural moisture" still penetrates.

Also can some one please settle some confusion once and for all. Can epoxy be used to fill cracks and splits in the wood, or is this a definete no no.

Thanks





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Re: How do I treat this? [Re: AlistairM]
      #1833074 - 22/04/2008 11:32

Take all the varnish off and start again. I would use epoxy to fill the cracks, but lots wouldnt. Might need something more flexible.
But really all that varnish needs to come off, the wood has bleached also, I think it's Mahogany, so will come up a lovely reddish colour, once all the varnish is off and it's sanded. The whole boat probaly needs re-varnishing, if the varnish is all that old.


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Re: How do I treat this? [Re: Englander]
      #1833100 - 22/04/2008 11:57

You Shouldent Really Rub Bare Plywood Down They Usally Add A Diluted Coat Of Varnish First, This Stops It Splintering,
You Can Use Epoxy For Filling If You Mix In A Filler ie Silica.


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AlistairM
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Re: How do I treat this? [Re: deisel]
      #1833202 - 22/04/2008 13:28

Thanks for the info, I will sand off all the varnish and reapply. This is my first "project" boat so I am looking forward to getting into it.

I am one of those rare occurances of being young(ish) and interested in wooden restoration jobs instead of out and plastic tubs.

Anyway thanks again


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Re: How do I treat this? [Re: AlistairM]
      #1833212 - 22/04/2008 13:36

I recently stripped some varnish using a hot air stripper - much easier and quicker than sanding.

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Re: How do I treat this? [Re: AlistairM]
      #1833484 - 22/04/2008 17:16

Alistair - the black marks are fungi - probably a 'blue stain-in-service' fungus . The fungus itself often blows the varnish, use oxalic acid to bleach it and sterilize the spores. And then revarnish.

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Re: How do I treat this? [Re: AlistairM]
      #1833593 - 22/04/2008 18:57

Hi
It looks as though the varnish has been blown off by damp penetrating from the inside of the boat, possibly rain water gathering against the transom. I would certainly look to the inside as well, and consider the quality of your rain cover. Damp may be getting in under the drain plug fittings and rudder hanging, so make sure that the wood under them is well sealed and bed them properly in something appropriate before refitting them.


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AlistairM
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Re: How do I treat this? [Re: Npm]
      #1834398 - 23/04/2008 12:11

Thanks for lots of good advice, this being my first wood project its alla bit of a learning curve.

I plan to cover the transom in Oxalic acid as indicated above then sand down and revarnish

What would be suitable for bedding the rudder pintle on??

Oh and take on board the cover issue too, I will look to enhance that also.

Thanks for the patience.


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Re: How do I treat this? [Re: AlistairM]
      #1835686 - 24/04/2008 12:16

I would use Nitromors to remove the varnish...makes it a very quick and easy job.

In case you havn't used it before, be cautious as it gets everywhere and of course use latex or similar gloves.

If its warm and the nitromors is tending to 'dry out' to quick, cover with cling film or ali foil to keep it 'working' longer.

Possibly with a dinghy sized job it might be worth applying with a mini roller.

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Re: How do I treat this? [Re: AlistairM]
      #1836529 - 24/04/2008 22:17

Hot air gun and a scraper to remove. Totally safe as long as you're careful not to burn the wood by staying in one spot too long. What sort of dinghy is it?

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