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Rum_Pirate
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What is a Classic?
      #1838284 - 26/04/2008 20:44

According to Antigua Classic Sailing Week


Do you agree with that defination?

If not how do you define a classic?


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highandry
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Re: What is a Classic? [Re: Rum_Pirate]
      #1838409 - 26/04/2008 23:03

Difficult one that...do you mean multi million pound, fully crewed, International financier millionaire owned for Antigua Classics, or a 50 year old Maurice Griffiths restored over the years at weekends and kept on a swinging mooring up the East Coast? I know which one I would classify as "Classic"...

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joliette
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Re: What is a Classic? [Re: Rum_Pirate]
      #1838424 - 26/04/2008 23:51

You mean .... 'All yachts, traditional boats, and ships should be of the “one off” type, with a hand-crafted hull. All entries should have a full keel with a keel hung rudder; however short keels with a separate rudder may be accepted if the yacht is of a traditional design. All entries should be fine examples of tradition and craftsmanship in hull and rig and be in good condition. Yachts built recently, using modern materials and built in classic style and grace to exceptional standards may be accepted into the "Spirit of Tradition Class"....?

Doesn't that cover both a 50 year old Maurice Griffiths and a Kate?

Perhaps one for a lengthy discussion over a bottle of the Sponsors product!

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Chrusty1
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Re: What is a Classic? [Re: Rum_Pirate]
      #1838486 - 27/04/2008 07:06

This one comes up every now and again doesn't it? I know what I mean by "classic boat"........but many may disagree.

For me, a "classic" has to be built of wood, have something like a traditional under water hull shape ie Folkboat style.... or long straight keel ie Martin Heard's Toshers..... Gaff Rig for preference.

Price / value, doesn't come into it, it's how she comes over to me when I see her. So I reckon it's all in the eye of the beholder really.


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Re: What is a Classic? [Re: highandry]
      #1838563 - 27/04/2008 09:56

Yes, but there surely must be a case for the Maurice Griffiths as well?

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highandry
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Re: What is a Classic? [Re: anteak]
      #1838577 - 27/04/2008 10:14

The MG will do for me! I have to admit to a certain feeling of being " conned" by some 'classics' that's all. There was a big yacht in Las Palmas which from a distance looked the real thing, but on closer inspection it was all carbon fibre and moulded GRP. Massive sheet winches which probably cost as much as my boat and I watched them use one to haul her stern closer to the quay for varnishing only to discover they were all electric, bloke pressed a button!!
Still, good luck to the owners, if they can afford it..why not? It's just for me personally it's a bit like faking Old Masters paintings, nice but not the real thing.


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PCUK
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Re: What is a Classic? [Re: highandry]
      #1846787 - 04/05/2008 12:43

It's a bit 'propulsionist' to restrict classics to wood and sail. There is a steel Tough Sealion in the berth next to me. Built in the sixties with a round bilge semi-displacement hull. Definitely a classic in my mind!

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Re: What is a Classic? [Re: PCUK]
      #1846821 - 04/05/2008 14:10

It's a bit 'propulsionist' to restrict classics to wood and sail

I have to agree with this statement, as the owner of a wood Mobo I feel she is or at least nearing a classic status now. Another example would be the Fairey Huntsman that must be a classic even if only in design and then there is ........ well the list would just go on and on.

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highandry
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Re: What is a Classic? [Re: PCUK]
      #1846831 - 04/05/2008 14:41

Propulsionist?? You're winding me up surely..is that a real word?? Perhaps it is today.

I don't give a big rat's arse what a vessel is made of, Fairy Huntsman beautiful, definitely a classic. As long as it's a real one that's all I ask before someone claims classic status.
There's a grey 1930's "Mercedes" open sports car around here that's made of fibre glass and has a Ford V six engine in it...if you get my drift..that's what I'm slightly cynical about when it comes to classics.


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Re: What is a Classic? [Re: Chrusty1]
      #1846834 - 04/05/2008 14:46

Quote:

For me, a "classic" has to be built of wood, have something like a traditional under water hull shape ie Folkboat style.... or long straight keel ie Martin Heard's Toshers..... Gaff Rig for preference.




But Martin builds fibre glass boats !!!

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