Chrusty1
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I don't think I have particularly bad taste, but checked with my wife just in case  and we both think she has the makings of a very nice boat, and at 90ft I'm very tempted to get involved (if only I had the money) . Niether of us can understand what this hang up some people have is all about. So she was built for a senior German officer in WWII, so what, she's a nice boat and I wouldn't care if she was built for A.H. himself, I just see a nice boat
I do like the irony though 
A senior german officer?.......you make him sound almost honourable. If you are inclined to do so, maybe have a read of this....
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/goering.html
Some people might find that wanting to be associated with, and to admire something connected with a piece of [--word removed--] like Hermann Goering, just a tad sick. Still what the heck, it was all a long time ago must be all of 63 years, and what does it matter that millions of people died?
Well actually to me, and I am sure to many others it matters a great deal. I am also sure that nothing I have to say will stop anybody trying to make a few quid out of restoring the bloody thing.
For me, restoring that boat is no different to collecting and wearing Nazi uniforms and insignia, still some people will try to attach credibility to all kinds of sick pursuits and pastimes, am I being intolerant here? Probably, but I think society is way too tolerant of all kinds of shite these days.
I expect that in truth, I am just a small voice in the wilderness, but it doesn't mean that I am wrong, does it?
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Sneddon
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Not wrong at all, and I empathise with your sentiments, I really do, but this is a boat not a Nazi simbol, just a boat.
Would you not visit Austria 'cos Hitler was born there, or Paris 'cos the "Germans" marched through the city?
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Chrusty1
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Hello Iain,
Just a boat?....I wish it was, then it would be a worthwhile project, but I fear that if it is restored, it will be sold on the basis that it was Hermann Goerings boat, and not that it is just a vintage motor boat. As it was Goerings boat it is very much a symbol, and for some sick twats, a very desirable symbol! Well look, I have said my piece, no point in rambling on about it.
Have a great day.
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Clifford_Pope
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I don't think burning things because you don't like their owners, or consider the style "decadent" achieves very much.
The nazis were rather into that kind of thing themselves - Reichstag, books, people.
There was once a movement to hang the Kaiser, but I notice his yacht is now restored.
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Chrusty1
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I don't think burning things because you don't like their owners, or consider the style "decadent" achieves very much.
The nazis were rather into that kind of thing themselves - Reichstag, books, people.
There was once a movement to hang the Kaiser, but I notice his yacht is now restored.
I don't mind at all if you disagree with me. but inane comments like that serve nothing. If you can't or don't want to understand the symbolism attached to that boat, well what's to say really? I suppose that you might think it's ok, to collect and or restore just about anything because it is old or you consider it to be interesting? Do you really not see that for some people, to see that boat restored and swanning about the waters various, would be deeply offensive, and belittling of the suffering that that the Nazis perpetrated in WW2?
I said I wasn't going to say anymore about it, but I felt that for you to suggest that I was in someway as bad as the Nazis for suggesting that the thing would be better destroyed, is deeply offensive to me! With that, I have said all I am going to say.
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Clifford_Pope
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I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be offensive.
Someone famous once said, where they burn books, soon they will be burning people, and the nazis exemplified that only too well.
Burning symbols, if that is what it is, does not allay old inhumanities. In fact it often creates the very symbol you are concerned about. The nazis doubtless thought it was a smart move to burn the parliament building, but instead the pictures that went round the world created a lasting monument to the end of democracy.
Anyway, I'd change the name if it were my yacht.
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Chrusty1
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No problem Clifford  .......as I said, I will leave it now.
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Englander
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I dont think you have bad taste either, I think she would look fabulous, renovated, imagine all that varnish work looking gleaming and the topsides etc, refitted in style with sympathy she would look great!
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 Sixpence
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Exactly my thoughts too. I would also re-name her and try and lose the links to her former life, but she would make a really nice boat for someone with the time (I have plenty) and money (sadly lacking there) to return her to her former glory.
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saltwater_gypsy
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The BNP will probably put in an offer!
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