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Big_Nige
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Re: Bora In Croatia [Re: branko]
      #1846156 - 03/05/2008 16:49

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By the way, Marina Kastela is situated on the direct force of Bora from Klis region




My boat is there, and I've been on her several times during a Bura, but not as strong as the 2004 one. Although the Buru is known for blowing downwards, the marina is in the lee of a mountain range which offers a lot of protection. They now have 3 forward mooring lines in each berth, one coming directly from the NE. Of all the places to be in Croatia during a Bura, I'm most at ease when I'm there.

EDIT: and no, my Pack-A-Main and Bimini on eBay were not rigged during the Bura!

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Captainslarty
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Re: Bora In Croatia [Re: Big_Nige]
      #1846159 - 03/05/2008 16:58

Looks like about 35 to 40 knots, no more.. a lot of crappily built cradles and poor shoreing.. the guys walking on the pntoons wouldnt be able to stand in much more..

maybe odd gust to more.. we have had similar condition here in Coruna.. at least what were shown on the film..

I simply cant believe that that 100 knots was there, no way.. but, only on the evidence of the film..

Joe

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Re: Bora In Croatia [Re: Captainslarty]
      #1846200 - 03/05/2008 18:06

well I don't know about the film, but I do not know what was officially registered that day in Trieste by the weather bods (188 kph gust), and a bora almost as strong is a regular occurence during the winter.

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Captainslarty
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Re: Bora In Croatia [Re: Metabarca]
      #1846203 - 03/05/2008 18:08

Maybe so

but, the camera only sometimes lies lol

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branko
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Re: Bora In Croatia [Re: Captainslarty]
      #1846208 - 03/05/2008 18:14

Our intention is not to prove that in 2004. Bura was over 100 kts in Kastela and over 120 kts in the North. My boat still have scratches on the bow from that November. You can believe or not but that evening national television in central News said that in Velebit chanel was measured short strong wind gust ( we call it Reful ) of 203 km/h. Was it true or not -I don't know but this value meteorologists release in central News. Looks unbelievable but that afternoon I came in my Marina and was not able to get out of my car. It was terrible!

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branko
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Re: Bora In Croatia [Re: Big_Nige]
      #1846224 - 03/05/2008 18:35

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Quote:

By the way, Marina Kastela is situated on the direct force of Bora from Klis region




Of all the places to be in Croatia during a Bura, I'm most at ease when I'm there.





Find a good insurer !

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ZigmundoVanDog
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Re: Bora In Croatia [Re: Captainslarty]
      #1846246 - 03/05/2008 19:18

"Believe me this footage was taken AFTER the main storm passed through!!"

It's amazing how difficult it is to explain what the conditions were like. There was only one person 'crawling' around during this. It took forever to get to the office to find no-one there. Eventually the 'sailors' were found in the restaurant. If any of them are still working there they will remember that moment!!! Capt. Birkett had ordered that it was too dangerous for any of them to be on the pontoons or sea wall.
Surfice it to say that after a heated discussion they did arrive and assist.

Big_Nige am glad you are happy in Kastella and it's gratifying that they presumably have beefed up the mooring lines. The mountains actually are'nt a proctection as they cause the increase effect of the Bura through katabatic wind added to that the Bura funnels through the Kliss valley. The surveyors, after the storm commented that this was a dangerous place to build a marina. Of 50 boats on the outer wall 38 were damaged.

Some of the damage went over a metre under water!!! not from 30-40 knot gusts.

If Dennis is still working there just mention Ziggy & the tall bearded angry man!!!

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branko
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Re: Bora In Croatia [Re: ZigmundoVanDog]
      #1846282 - 03/05/2008 20:18

Absolutely correct. Why it is not so good place for Bura? Answer is in geography of around mountains Kozjak and Mosor with funnel Klis in between. Even it blows from NE direction Bura is not blowing with full force in direction Split .It turns in direction Trogir because of Kastela bay and hit directly to Marina Kastela with full force. Very similar situation is in Trogir.
Marinas on opposite side of the bay in Split are protected!

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Re: Bora In Croatia [Re: branko]
      #1847045 - 04/05/2008 20:33

I'll scrap my plan to moor on the east side of Trogir then!!
Just arrived in Monfalcone, "only" 18hrs driving from Brighton.
I don't remember the night in Baden Baden.

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