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Andrew_Fanner
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Weekend
      #1843764 - 01/05/2008 11:01

So, who is going where this weekend and what is the state of the river likely to be after all thie rain?

Jedi will be heading to Windsor, make yourself known if you see us.

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Re: Weekend [Re: Andrew_Fanner]
      #1843821 - 01/05/2008 11:56

Unfortunately I can't get to the Rally with the time i have, so its either Windsor or Cookham for me depending on the state of the river.

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Re: Weekend [Re: Andrew_Fanner]
      #1843946 - 01/05/2008 13:58

Reds at Temple, Hurley, Sonning & Marlow.
Yellows to Boveney. Stream increasing. More rain on the way


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Re: Weekend [Re: Risingstar]
      #1843964 - 01/05/2008 14:14

Quote:

Reds at Temple, Hurley, Sonning & Marlow.
Yellows to Boveney. Stream increasing. More rain on the way




Nadgers:-(

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Re: Weekend [Re: Andrew_Fanner]
      #1843971 - 01/05/2008 14:22

What did you expect? it is a bank holiday?

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Re: Weekend [Re: Richard_Shead]
      #1843983 - 01/05/2008 14:37

Is it really seen as not the done thing to go out if Red boards are up? Clearly weir streams and weirs are more dangerous, but a well powered and handled boat can, I assume, cope. In the locks themselves, it wouldn't really change things would it?

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Re: Weekend [Re: JECuk]
      #1843992 - 01/05/2008 14:46

Quote:

Is it really seen as not the done thing to go out if Red boards are up? Clearly weir streams and weirs are more dangerous, but a well powered and handled boat can, I assume, cope. In the locks themselves, it wouldn't really change things would it?




You may have to work the lock yourself as the keeper doing it for you with reds up could be interpreted (by some numpty somewhere) as "condoning" your boating activities.

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Re: Weekend [Re: JECuk]
      #1844005 - 01/05/2008 14:56

would it affect your insurance should anything happen (you know how Ins co's like to get out of claims)?

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Re: Weekend [Re: if_only]
      #1844047 - 01/05/2008 15:46

AFAIK , we are required to hand out the 'Strong Stream' warning notices to each boat as it comes through , but we can't stop you navigating.

The point about the insurance companies is a good one , and potentially correct. If you stacked your boat while the river was on red boards ( and the Agency on red boards advises all craft to moor up until the stream abates ) then your insurance could possibly have a way out.

You would need to clarify it with them.


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Re: Weekend [Re: teddington_lock]
      #1844060 - 01/05/2008 15:55

My boat is suitable for coastal and estuary work, has been out on 'Reds' before, and the stream proved to be no issue at all.

I will take her to the TVR whatever*

Obviously precautions shall be taken, such as SWMBO will be well versed in weighing anchor in case of engine failure, extra care at locks (Lifejackets worn, large stick to beat recalcitrant lock-keeper etc) and discretion being the better part of valour if things look too hairy.

We're quite used to being alone on the Thames...




*I accept some level of abuse and scorn may be heaped upon me for this attitude, and some of it may be deserved, but I believe my craft is up to it.
I may wince in a Narrow boat, or 2hp Dinghy...

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Edited by No_Regrets (01/05/2008 15:57)


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Re: Weekend [Re: No_Regrets]
      #1844071 - 01/05/2008 16:04

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...such as SWMBO will be well versed in weighing anchor in case of engine failure




Now that's worrying......

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Re: Weekend [Re: boatone]
      #1844082 - 01/05/2008 16:10

Err....

Any ideas what else I should do in case of engine failure?

Paddle?

Jump out, rope betwixt teeth and aim for the bank?

Dial 999 and expect a Lock-keeper to help?


My little Watermota is honed to perfection, to the extent I polish her chrome rocker cover, and vacuum the engine bay, but shite happens doesn't it?

Am I missing something B1?

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Now can anybody recommend any non-marking slippers?


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Re: Weekend [Re: No_Regrets]
      #1844100 - 01/05/2008 16:21

You don't want to weigh anchor if your engine fails, you want it dug into the river bed!

The correct words of command being "OI! Chuck that big heavy lump of iron we keep up the pointy end into the Oggin!"


You follow this with "No, I thought YOU tied the rope through that loop in the anchor locker!!".

(The last piece of rope you saw sink after you lobbed the anchor in is called the Bitter End.....)



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Re: Weekend [Re: No_Regrets]
      #1844103 - 01/05/2008 16:26

>>Any ideas what else I should do in case of engine failure?<<

I get on the VHF or mobile and whinge until a kind fellow member of the Bray Cruiser Club comes and tows me to the event!






Thanks Jaws and the mighty "Judge It" for the tow, and YES I will top up the diesel before I leave on Saturday morning!

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Re: Weekend [Re: Ramage]
      #1844105 - 01/05/2008 16:27

Ah, sorry. What I meant was 'Anchor handling' then. I was just picking a well used phrase

The 'Bitter end' was something I picked up from the survey, thankfully, and the surveyor made a note the 'bitter end' was connected, and the anchor etc was all in order

I shall practise this:

Quote:

"OI! Chuck that big heavy lump of iron we keep up the pointy end into the Oggin!"





....several times over supper tonight.

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Now can anybody recommend any non-marking slippers?


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Re: Weekend [Re: No_Regrets]
      #1844109 - 01/05/2008 16:29

I never leave home without at least 2 spare gallons now, as a result of that picture.

Even when the tanks full

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Re: Weekend [Re: Andrew_Fanner]
      #1844119 - 01/05/2008 16:34

We're going to the nice safe tidal Thames Estuary. Not a red board in sight, except perhaps the one outside a lovely riverside pub at Rochester listing the latest catch of the day. Sea Bass anyone?


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Re: Weekend [Re: No_Regrets]
      #1844121 - 01/05/2008 16:36

The full sad and sorry tale is available here:

http://www.braycruiserclub.co.uk/default.asp?action=news&news_action=news_item&nid=51



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Re: Weekend [Re: JECuk]
      #1844181 - 01/05/2008 17:31

Quote:

Is it really seen as not the done thing to go out if Red boards are up? Clearly weir streams and weirs are more dangerous, but a well powered and handled boat can, I assume, cope. In the locks themselves, it wouldn't really change things would it?




On the way back from the Trad boat Rally at Henley last year we collected 12 red cards but I wouldn't take them without a lockies signature. Some signed with love and kisses but there were two who thought I was not taking the issue seriously at all!

I saw what I thought were seasoned helms pirouetting their 30'+ in weir streams and disappearing in clouds of smoke while they threw everything astern to avoid mounting the river banks. The weir streams can and will turn you on a sixpence, that is if you don't steer into the stream. Do try and join a convoy if the reds are still up. It will be very good fun.


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Re: Weekend [Re: Doolittle]
      #1844212 - 01/05/2008 18:02

Why were you asking for signatures ?

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Re: Red Boards [Re: Risingstar]
      #1844306 - 01/05/2008 19:30

Quote:

Reds at Temple, Hurley, Sonning & Marlow.
Yellows to Boveney. Stream increasing. More rain on the way




Just checked with a certain forumite who is travelling to the TVR today, apparently the downstream waiting zone for Bray lock is under water - who didn't make it high enough then when they rebuilt it last year?

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Re: Red Boards [Re: DogsBody]
      #1844356 - 01/05/2008 19:56

Bit concerned about all this talk of red boards. Do I continue on my journey to the Thames. Don't want to get to Teddington and find I can't get up the river. Whilst I have bags of power to punch any stream, I do know, from my old days on the Thames, that you just don't go out when red boards are up. Some of the wiers can be viscious. Penton Hook, I know, is a real killer, literally.

So want does everyone reckon, should I press on, hope to reach Teddington Tues or Weds.

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Re: Red Boards [Re: Geoffs]
      #1844410 - 01/05/2008 20:36

will be fun planing at 8knots SOG

Cheers Joe

we may have similair on the Witham(I'm going.)

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Re: Red Boards [Re: jkay]
      #1844424 - 01/05/2008 20:47


Will update when i get to work tonight ( 10pm ) , Teddington is yellow at the moment , but could potentially be red by tomorrow night.


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Re: Red Boards [Re: teddington_lock]
      #1844509 - 01/05/2008 21:42

Just been for a run up the Tedd / Kingston towpath, starting to run a bit (the river!) quite amusing watching the sailboats with no wind whatsoever trying to get back upstream and mostly ending up in the bush on the bank.

The tow path actually looks like a broom convention not sure where they are going


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Re: Red Boards [Re: Richard_Shead]
      #1844545 - 01/05/2008 22:10

I was at Bray Marina earlier today and was quite amused to see a couple of narrow boats whooshing past in the strong stream. Fastest NB's I've ever seen!

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Re: Red Boards [Re: Phill]
      #1844562 - 01/05/2008 22:21

It is funny. I've seen them going downstream like a train.

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Re: Red Boards [Re: rr_123]
      #1844582 - 01/05/2008 22:34

Red Boards at Teddington now

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Re: Red Boards [Re: teddington_lock]
      #1844587 - 01/05/2008 22:37

curious to know, is there a specific measure for reds, or is is it, to some degree, subjective?

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Re: Red Boards [Re: rr_123]
      #1844610 - 01/05/2008 22:58

Every lock has a 'trigger' point ...

Each lock has a 'pulling order' for the gates on the weir , and when the lock-keeper reaches a certain point in this order which equates to a set amount of gates , the yellow boards go out , when he opens a set amount more , then out go the reds.



Edited by teddington_lock (01/05/2008 22:58)


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Re: Weekend [Re: teddington_lock]
      #1844637 - 01/05/2008 23:30

I think my daughter was just fattening up her autograph book and thought you guys were worthy celebs!



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Re: Weekend [Re: Doolittle]
      #1844644 - 01/05/2008 23:36

Maybe one day !!

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Re: Red Boards [Re: Geoffs]
      #1844652 - 01/05/2008 23:42