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paul
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Poorest quality for highest price
      #1846463 - 03/05/2008 22:51

Keeping red might be good for availabilty but it's the worst cost/performance option. White road diesel has more detergent and other additives which make it a better quality fuel with lower emissions. And because it's cleaner it gets an EU tariff concession of 6p a litre - so it's cheaper too! Keeping red means we're filling our boats with the lowest quality fuel in Europe while paying (by some margin) the highest price. And the government's idea of taking an "honest box" approach to users self declaring what proportion is for propulsion versus heating and generator use is rediculous. From now on the only motoring I'll do is to the fuel pontoon to buy diesel for my generator and heating (I'm told we're in for a cold summer!)

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Hurricane
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Re: Poorest quality for highest price [Re: paul]
      #1854651 - 11/05/2008 16:23

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(I'm told we're in for a cold summer!)



Its actually next summer (2009) thats going to be cold. You need to look at the long long long range forecast.


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Nickcf
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Re: Poorest quality for highest price [Re: paul]
      #1855194 - 12/05/2008 08:20

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And because it's cleaner it gets an EU tariff concession of 6p a litre - so it's cheaper too!




..Except in the UK. The tax on white diesel is higher in the Uk than anywhere. The EU only mandate a minimum tax level (around 20p/litre) national governments can set their own levels above this. Not suprisingly this money grabbing lot fleece the motorist.


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tamara
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Re: Poorest quality for highest price [Re: Nickcf]
      #1855771 - 12/05/2008 16:09

I worked in an industry which purchased millions of litres of red. On speaking to the delivery driver he said there is no difference at all from red to wite fuel. infact he loaded his tanker with fuel and then depending on the customer, would add the required dye. There is no difference, except for tax

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adrianm
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Re: Poorest quality for highest price [Re: tamara]
      #1855835 - 12/05/2008 16:58

Well if thats true someone had better tell the Goverment because they're charging us more tax because of the higher sulphur content.

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Nickcf
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Re: Poorest quality for highest price [Re: adrianm]
      #1855939 - 12/05/2008 18:03

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Well if thats true someone had better tell the Goverment because they're charging us more tax because of the higher sulphur content.




I understand this isn't now true (initially it was the case). The tax on red (for leisure use) and white will be the same (ie still obscene...!)


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KevB
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Re: Poorest quality for highest price [Re: tamara]
      #1858381 - 14/05/2008 12:37

They are not the same. ULS has a cetane rating of around 51, red diesel has a cetane rating of around 45. ULS also has detergents added for a cleaner burn.

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