Swissnic
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Reged: 07/05/2008
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Loc: London, UK
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Hi Chaps,
I was recommended here from another forum (non-sailing related).
I am looking to buy my first yacht, firstly for a crash-pad whilst im working on a contract away from home, and secondly to learn to sail (again) and enjoy the freedom.
I would like to sail across the pond (eventually) but have been recommended to start with a sub 30 footer. I have found a mooring available where I need it, so now I'm stuck with which boat to get!!! (This is where your help comes in... ;o)
As this is also a cost reduction exercise, I have a budget or around 10-15k for the first purchase. There are numerous 30ft boats from the 80's on places like Boatshed in that price range, but which are the good ones?
I am looking for a sensibly sized cabin (1 full time occupant), something reasonably good to learn to sail in, and something I can take the family out on at the weekend - Can you help steer me away from a disaster?
Thanks in advance for your help,
Nic.
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trouville
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Reged: 10/06/2004
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Loc: crusing with an Arpège
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A folkboats a very good idea to begin with!Just by chance i know of one for sail not so far away.
Where will you be mooring??
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Swissnic
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Loc: London, UK
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Penarth, Wales.
Sounds interesting, but what is a Folksboat?
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Swissnic
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Ah ha - just found Folkboats.com... hmmmm.
That a little less substantial than I had in mind... This was where I started:
http://www.boatshed.com/sadler_32-boat-33376.html
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Tranona
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Sorry, but at under £15k you will not get a Sadler 32. However, there are vast numbers of sub 30 foot 70s/80s boats on the market, but few are serious for living aboard for long periods - even for one, unless you are very basic. Suggest you just go and look at a variety and get a feel for what is on offer. Many of the performance orientated boats will be very cramped and more spacious boats less good performers, but mostly safe and steady. At the end of the day condition and equipment is probably more important than the specific design.
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Foxy
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Loc: Cruising
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How about dufour arpege for speed and space and cheap cos thers lots of em!
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Swissnic
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Loc: London, UK
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Sorry, but at under £15k you will not get a Sadler 32.
This one is on offer for £16950... I'm sure thats a little negotiable...
I'm putting comfort over speed/racing ability, and i would be happy to invest in equipment over the long run.
I guess I'm asking which models are the ones to look out for - which ones have the best reputation (from the 80's era at least). I don't want to find a yacht that I think is great, only to find out that it has the worst reputation (for good reason) several months down the line.
Thanks for the replys by the way - your input is greatly appreciated!
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TigaWave
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Reged: 17/12/2004
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Loc: Buckland Monachorum
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Westerly renown, like this...
http://www.yachtsnet.co.uk/boats/t6837/t6837.htm
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demonboy
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and i would be happy to invest in equipment over the long run.
Get used to spending/investing in the long run...it's never ending!
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Tranona
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If you look on Yachtworld.com there are about 15 Sadler 32s for sale, mostly around £30k asking plus 3 including this one under £20k. Suggests potentially big expenditure to get it up to scratch, or a desparate seller. Suggest you look at the £30k boats and then make a comparison - it might be a bargain! As to whether the design is any good, just look at the pedigree. Well respected designer, successful boat in its time, active owners club and good secondhand market. However all of these apply to most mainstream boats for the period, so back to the same strategy. Look at lots of boats to see what you think will suit your needs, research archive material eg magazine reports and get advice from brokers/surveyors when you get neasr the buying point.
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