boathead
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One day soon I may do something other than ask lots of questions of you all, but here we go again: Can you give your opinions on the Sadler 34 as a go anywhere boat. I am being told they are well built, and despite the fin keel ( in this particular case it is a shallow fin) it would prove sound for more than just the Atlantic circuit and the Med. However my prejudice is stopping me accepting that a Sadler 34 in the Southern ocean is not as happier home as a traditional long keeled Warrior 35. You may have more space on the Sadler but would it really ride out the bigger blows without turning me grey???
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Rosa
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I have had the pleasure of owning a Sadler 34 (shallow fin) for several years. I have no experience of the Warrior 35, so can't comment, but I have great trust in my boat to look after me. I know someone bought a brand new one and sailed her straight back to Japan. Try MikeLucasYachting site for more information.
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Foxy
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No experience of warrior but sailed in company with 2 x Sadlers in the carib last year and both have done the full circuit. We even raced in Antigua with one. Lovely to sail too. If you need more info I can put you in touch with skippers.
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boathead
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This message is for yourself and for Rosa; thanks for your replies and apologies for not being on-line to reply straight back. The Sadler is very spacious inside compared with the Warrior, and that is very tempting/ It's just my deep rooted bias against anything that hasn't got a long keel. My lack of experience of fin keels and all the 'old sailores tales' (I am one myself!!) make me assume without thought that you wouldn't want to be in the Southern Ocean in one. Nonsence I know, I am after all more than happy to rely on modern navigation aids so why not modern keel designs?
Thanks again.
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TigaWave
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I was looking at Sadlers a few years back but ended up with a Bavaria. The keel length debate when it gets rough is more about how you sail the boat, I've sailed Rival 38's quite a few miles as well as Warrior 35, Twisters, Halmatic 30, Sweden 38 and my next boat will almost certainly be a fin keel with South America as a cruising goal.
One thing to look out for on the Sadlers is any soft patches in the foam core on the deck, many were used as charter or school boats and may have a had a hard life at some time in the past.
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boathead
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Actually I take the point you make about sailing schools and for that matter the charter market seriously because I would need to be looking at the lower end on price (30/35k) which would mean looking to the older harder used examples, so I will pay attention to the deck as you suggest. I have been 'chasing' the Warrior 35's available in the u.k. and not being able to make any deal on the few good examples, in the course of this my partner became less and less happy with the living space on the Warrior (we are in the process of selling up, cashing in..... but you can't live on my current boat), hence a 'rethink' and so the Sadler34 has come into the frame, anyone know of a deep fin version in the u.k. for sale for 30k?????
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SAWDOC
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Quote:
I was looking at Sadlers a few years back but ended up with a Bavaria. The keel length debate when it gets rough is more about how you sail the boat, I've sailed Rival 38's quite a few miles as well as Warrior 35, Twisters, Halmatic 30, Sweden 38
Is thtere any notable difference in the cruising speed of those models you have sailed from your observations ?
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Glayva
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Is this Warrior 40 too far away for you at £30,000?
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/b...currencyid=1005
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TigaWave
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Not a huge difference as I never push a boat too hard if I'm cruising, I estimate around 5-5.5 for passage planning.
I don't really think it makes much difference as a long passage is a long passage whether its 5 or 6 days. Fully crewed we averaged 7.5 on the Sweden for nearly 15 days, but there were a few breakages and worn fittings at the end.
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Nairndale
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Hi,
know of a good example of a wing keel version for sail, owner has just bought a new boat. It sails really well and eats up the rough weather no problem. As far as I'm aware they are also supposed to be unsinkable, this may be a safety feature in itself, is insulation in colder climates with no drips apparent another advantage!?!
See YBW.com, sure he is open to a sensible offer.
Good luck. 
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