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KenMcCulloch
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Re: Coastal fog - what do you call it? [Re: OcklePoint]
      #1852851 - 09/05/2008 12:35

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It can be a real curse in Edinburgh. If you live near the shore you can spend a week in cold dark clammy stuff when half a mile up the road is in glorious sunshine




Indeed. I am just back in town after visiting a site in Midlothian, about 10M inland and 200m altitude, it's a warm summer day there and rather chilly here near the sea at an altitude of about 30m.

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Re: Coastal fog - what do you call it? [Re: Cornishman]
      #1852900 - 09/05/2008 12:57

Misty - vis about a mile
thick - vis about half a mile
Thick as a bag - can't see the quay across the harbour

Mizzlin - if its misty and lightly drizzling

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Re: Coastal fog - what do you call it? [Re: Cornishman]
      #1852934 - 09/05/2008 13:18

may and june

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jenku
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Re: Coastal fog - what do you call it? [Re: LakeSailor]
      #1852945 - 09/05/2008 13:29

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Used to be called a roke (spelling?) in East Yorkshire




This sounds like the most norse word to me as it is called (sjö)rök in Swedish and the Norwegian pronounciation should sound something like "royk". The meaning is essentially (sea)smoke.

Haar isn't something that I can connect to any Scandinavian/Norse word, at least right now...

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Jimi
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Re: Coastal fog - what do you call it? [Re: jenku]
      #1852982 - 09/05/2008 13:51

I've always thought the word Haar to have a Dutch connection,(suprisingly many Scots words have this origin as there was much interchange between the nations). My grandfather (from Fife originally but resident in Edinburgh) always spoke of the cold east wind haar, associating it with both mist and a cold east wind. The Scots dictionary definition tends to confirm this

"The word is of Dutch origin, coming either from Middle Dutch hare, a biting wind, or Frisian harig, damp"


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LakeSailor
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Re: Coastal fog - what do you call it? [Re: jenku]
      #1853075 - 09/05/2008 14:40

Ah. Found a page from someone in East Yorkshire with mention of sea rokes and pictures.

Here

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Re: Coastal fog - what do you call it? [Re: Jimi]
      #1853093 - 09/05/2008 14:50

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We used to call that mixture of mist and drizzle mizzle



Wasn't that word invented by David Ike?

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Jimi
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Re: Coastal fog - what do you call it? [Re: Cornishman]
      #1853099 - 09/05/2008 14:57

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We used to call that mixture of mist and drizzle mizzle



Wasn't that word invented by David Ike?




Possibly, but must have been in one of his a previous lives, again probably of Dutch origin

miz·zle 1 (mzl)
intr.v. miz·zled, miz·zling, miz·zles
To rain in fine, mistlike droplets; drizzle.
n.
A mistlike rain; a drizzle.
[Middle English misellen; probably akin to Dutch dialectal mieselen


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Cornishman
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Re: Coastal fog - what do you call it? [Re: bilbobaggins]
      #1853100 - 09/05/2008 14:57

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'Haar' is derivative in the Northumberland and Fife dialects from Norse/Dansk roots




According to the Concise Oxford Dictionary the word is "perhaps from Old Norse harr meaning hairy or hoary".

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peterb
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Re: Coastal fog - what do you call it? [Re: Jimi]
      #1853111 - 09/05/2008 15:06

The Concise Oxford gives it as a seafog on the east coast of England or Scotland (I've heard it in Norfolk), and suggest that it comes from the old Norse word for "hoar". It gives hoar as having Germanic roots and meaning grey.

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