hlb
regular
Reged: 16/05/2001
Posts: 16516
Loc: Any Pub Cornwall or Devon
|
|
To me it's a stupid question. Marina full is obvious. But there are very few uk harbours interested in who enters and only then because of the danger of outgoing ferries. You just mosey up and go in. No harbour will denny entrance especially in a storm. OK you might not get the best berth in a marina. But you will never get refused.
--------------------
No one can force me to come here. I'm a volunteer!!.
You get yer forum burgee here. PM me.
Haydn
|
Gludy
regular
Reged: 19/08/2001
Posts: 6343
Loc: Brecon, Wales
|
|
Hlb
There you go again claiming a stupid question. A perfectly peaceful thread on a valid boating topic cannot be left alone by you.
The question what the law is and that is a perfectly valid question. Sorry it does not fit in with the forum thought police code.
Also the answers have been interesting. In particular the being dumped outside without an engine working etc.
--------------------
Paul
Photo Gallery
How to post images onto the forum the Easy Way!
|
blueglass
regular
Reged: 27/04/2003
Posts: 688
Loc: South of France (boat) Shropsh...
|
|
that's terrible. OK I ,m sure the berth was booked out to somebody else, but the somebody else had a fully functional boat. so much for helping others in distress. somehow I don't think this would happen in the UK - or am I dreaming?
|
Tonybob
regular
Reged: 29/03/2006
Posts: 35
|
|
"This means I have a weak case arriving in a little Cornish harbour two hours before the storm hits"
Gludy is this hypothetical or was it an actual incident? If actual what was the weather forecast prior to leaving the marina?
|
hlb
regular
Reged: 16/05/2001
Posts: 16516
Loc: Any Pub Cornwall or Devon
|
|
Thankfully, the Cornish harbour does not need a law, as to whether you can go in it or not. Though no doubt this Government will see it wise to invent one.
--------------------
No one can force me to come here. I'm a volunteer!!.
You get yer forum burgee here. PM me.
Haydn
|
Gludy
regular
Reged: 19/08/2001
Posts: 6343
Loc: Brecon, Wales
|
|
It is theoretical but raised because with a drying out boat that is slower I may only be able to reach a small harbour in time to miss what is coming.
In real life I listen to the Met office forecasts but take them with a pinch of salt and do my own. So I would never plan to be out in bad weather.
I have been out in bad weather because of must do delivery trips but that was in large mon0 hull power boats and I knew what I was heading into to, although when the waves needed to be looked up to from the flybridge of a 60 foot boat - estimated at 18 feet high, I did run for cover to Plymouth with a German warship taking station up smack on my stern and covering me from the wind!
I go boating to enjoy myself not to punish myself and SWMBO so I always do my very best to avoid bad weather but I am pleased that I have had bad weather experiences on delivery trips.
There are clear rules governing the duty of a skipper in a boat to come to the aid of anyone in distress but there do not seem to be any rules governing a harbour giving aid to a boat that is trying to avoid a distress situation.
--------------------
Paul
Photo Gallery
How to post images onto the forum the Easy Way!
|
nyx2k
regular
Reged: 11/11/2005
Posts: 460
Loc: Southend, Essex
|
|
please excuse my ignorance but if you're buying your new boat to do extended cruising then surely one of the main points of this boat should be that it can take Anything the weather can throw at it.
|
Gludy
regular
Reged: 19/08/2001
Posts: 6343
Loc: Brecon, Wales
|
|
The long range boat I will be buying will exceed Class A Ocean going and will be capable of riding out a storm..... yes.
However, there are many reasons why you would wish to avoid such a storm and many other reasons why a storm can be dangerous for any boat.
Storms see huge commercial boats founder let alone a class A pleasure boat - it would be foolhardy not to avoid a storm no matter what boat you are in - the stress on the crew - in this case SWMBO, not being the least of it.
I will always do all I can to avoid bad weather and will not sail into it unless I really have to and in that case would still try and limit it to a maximum force 8.
--------------------
Paul
Photo Gallery
How to post images onto the forum the Easy Way!
|
Beadle
regular
Reged: 20/08/2007
Posts: 1209
|
|
I'll try to be more polite than Haydn but I am becoming a bit confused about what precisely the problem is.
One of the advantages of a cat is that they are less uncomfortably in bad weather and a 50ft version should be able to cope with almost anything around the British coast.
OK no-one likes the nasty stuff but its part of the game really.
As for getting to a safe haven then what is your worry. You just go in. Assuming that the place is safe to enter, and many are not in bad weather from the wrong direction. I would guess thats a common thing around Cornwall. Thats seamanship and local knowledge needed for this decision.
A couple of times I've ducked into places yachts don't normally go - once for bad weather, and once cos I was tired and needed a rest and had missed the tide and was generally fed up.
No-one even asked the question. I asumed that if there isn't a rule to say they must let you in then there isn't a rule that says you must go out if you consider it unsafe.
If you need to go in then go - and argue the case from a position of being tied up and secure. I would be amazed if anyone bothered. And if they were what could they do? Call he bobbies - doubt they would be interested - and if they were tell them you've had a drink and can't drive.
Sue you - for what - making a temporary hole in their water?
I think you are worrying about nothing - JGFDI
--------------------
For God so loved the world..........He didn't send a committee.
Edited by Beadle (10/05/2008 20:28)
|
hlb
regular
Reged: 16/05/2001
Posts: 16516
Loc: Any Pub Cornwall or Devon
|
|
I think it's just Gludys latest attempt to get the 10 million thread post. Invent somthing that's never happend, get everone het up about it. Then decide some thing has to be done about it.
--------------------
No one can force me to come here. I'm a volunteer!!.
You get yer forum burgee here. PM me.
Haydn
|
Previous
Index
Next
Threaded
[Re: 
Edit
Reply
Quote
