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Mrsmarshall
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Genuine Bargain -how to convince there's no catch
      #1856998 - 13/05/2008 12:30

We own our second new boat in 4 years.This one just over 12 months old with current engine guarantees and boat in excellent order. As active retirees,we have now done boating(been there-done that)now want to travel the world.At our time of life, time is more important than money (Not vastly rich though!)So our problem is this. How can we offer this boat for sale at a truly bargain price without people thinking there is a catch? Any advice welcome please. Boat is flybridge in Spain on pretty rented mooring.

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Re: Genuine Bargain -how to convince there's no catch [Re: Mrsmarshall]
      #1857001 - 13/05/2008 12:32

Go to a broker, and give them the info.

Or even better, be brutally honest in your advert and stick on a good number of sales web sites

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Re: Genuine Bargain -how to convince there's no catch [Re: Mrsmarshall]
      #1857065 - 13/05/2008 13:30

And give us a clue on here what it is and how much....

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Re: Genuine Bargain -how to convince there's no catch [Re: KevB]
      #1857073 - 13/05/2008 13:41

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And give us a clue on here what it is and how much....




Ha. You fell into the cunning trap........


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KevB
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Re: Genuine Bargain -how to convince there's no catch [Re: Blackfeather]
      #1857204 - 13/05/2008 15:11

Quote:

Quote:

And give us a clue on here what it is and how much....




Ha. You fell into the cunning trap........




Or asked the obvious question

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Re: Genuine Bargain -how to convince there's no catch [Re: Mrsmarshall]
      #1857238 - 13/05/2008 15:28

Price the boat at a keen price, but not way low - otherwise people who want a good one will assume it is a dog and not bother getting in touch....add "ONO" or "Asking".....and when you get real buyers turn up who are interested mention that you are expecting to negotiate on the price and then be very willing to drop the price if someone does start making offers.

Or stick it on E-bay. No reserve

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Re: Genuine Bargain -how to convince there's no catch [Re: Mrsmarshall]
      #1857278 - 13/05/2008 15:51

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How can we offer this boat for sale at a truly bargain price



Why on earth would you want to?

Why not put it on the market at a realistic price and see what happens. The secondhand market in Spain is particularly bad at the moment so maybe your price is realistic in the current climate. A recent boat show at my marina in Spain had zero sales reported by some agents.
However on the bright side, you would get paid in euros which is advantageous against the pound.

As a suggestion ask your marina if you can transfer the berth to the new potential owner. Berths in pretty places are so difficult to get on the Med and would be a real selling point in the advert.

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Mrsmarshall
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Re: Genuine Bargain -how to convince there's no catch [Re: KevB]
      #1858361 - 14/05/2008 12:17

Thanks but we are new to this site - thought giving details may have appeared as advertising

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Re: Genuine Bargain -how to convince there's no catch [Re: DavidJ]
      #1858364 - 14/05/2008 12:18

Thank you - very helpful

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Re: Genuine Bargain -how to convince there's no catch [Re: Mrsmarshall]
      #1858372 - 14/05/2008 12:25

Yes you are right, plain advertising would be wrong but I asked so you're just answering my question

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Re: Genuine Bargain -how to convince there's no catch [Re: Mrsmarshall]
      #1858394 - 14/05/2008 12:42

Does anyone really not phone about a boat because they think it looks too cheap? They may be a little cautious about it, but they'd still phone, and you then have the opportunity to explain your specific circumstances.

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Re: Genuine Bargain -how to convince there's no catch [Re: Nick_H]
      #1858416 - 14/05/2008 12:57

Agreed.

Also best to sell yourself and avoid a broker who will not be in a position to give honest and genuine answers.

When I buy a boat I want to speak to the owner to get a feel how honest they are.

When I sold my last 2 boats I gave a 12 month and a 3 month warranty with it, I knew there was nothing wrong with it, as yours is so new why not offer a warranty ?

One thing is for sure if you really want to play on the genuine boat for sale you need to be a lot more open than you are now............really putting me off, secrecy indicates something is not just right


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Re: Genuine Bargain -how to convince there's no catch [Re: DAKA]
      #1858422 - 14/05/2008 13:06

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When I sold my last 2 boats I gave a 12 month and a 3 month warranty with it




Blimey, I wouldn't advise anyone do that. You couldn't possibly cover all issues of misuse, prior knowledge, reasonable wear and tear, etc, and leave yourself wide open to a big bill that you can't fight.

As an example, suppose they didn't clean out the raw water strainers, and an engine overheated and melted the pistons to the block? They just clean out the filter and claim many thousands under your warranty. How do you prove that the filters were blocked through lack of basic maintenance, and did you cover that in the warranty agreement anyway?


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Re: Genuine Bargain -how to convince there's no catch [Re: Nick_H]
      #1858455 - 14/05/2008 13:33

It was carefully worded and had limits.
One I recall had osmosis

I declared it and gave a written warranty that I would pay half the cost of treatment up to £2000 if they needed to treat the boat with in 12 months.

The other one was a 3 month warranty given up north in October, the only thing that would be miss used was the ebberspacher


The whole idea of someone saying

This boat is in perfect condition, there are no faults that IU am aware of and if you find any I will pay
shows an honest genuine person which the post was about.

If its a knackered pup then they will not want to give these reassurances.


if I know of a fault with my boat I fix it, not sell it.
I personally wouldnt sell a boat or car with a known fault, if it breaks just after I sell it , I take the attitude it is my responsibility ad I am pleased to pay for it and just be thankful it held out on my last trip.


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Re: Genuine Bargain -how to convince there's no catch [Re: DAKA]
      #1858638 - 14/05/2008 16:15

Nothing to hide - honest - not quite ready to sell yet and just wanted some general views and advice as we have no experience of selling a boat (part exchanged last one) but thanks to all for the interesting views. We think that with guarantees still on the engines, FSH, and anyone most welcome to survey or sea trial that we would not give a personal guarantee but it's an interesting idea.

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