Clifford_Pope
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Reged: 28/10/2005
Posts: 663
Loc: Pembrokeshire
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Bring back petrol/parafin engines and TVO. You can still make it I think with access to bulk turpentine and lamp oil.
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Lotus_John
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Reged: 17/11/2007
Posts: 4
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Q:why do aviators have ultra-cheap fuel for pleasure then?
A: Because their representative body fought to keep the price down to the EU minimum unlike the RYA who adopted the views of a few Sailing Boat members who expressed concerns about the environment. They chose not to fight to keep the tax down to the EU minimum.
It is not too late to get the government to adopt a tax of 21ppl. If you do not want a 600% Tax increase you need to write to your MP , the Chancellor at DarlingA@parliament.uk and the RYA (Tell RYA to get behind this campaign now and work for benefit of all boating members)
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adrianm
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Reged: 16/05/2001
Posts: 524
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I've made all those points several times. No-one, least of all the RYA, is the least bit interested.
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Lotus_John
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Reged: 17/11/2007
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Adrian
Well done and thank you, especially as the amount of diesel that you use will probably not stop your boating. I want the 350,000 motor boaters in this country to make their voice heard, in government and RYA. I believe that we could still succeed in convincing government that tax revenue will fall from the marine sector and the RYA that their membership will decline amongst the power boaters if the full road tax rate is applied to red diesel.
The argument was used that we could not apply the EU minimum tax, as we were not allowed to charge a different rate for the same fuel. Now that HMRC has agreed that we can continue to use red diesel surely this argument no longer applies.
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Chris_d
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Reged: 15/06/2001
Posts: 1327
Loc: Oxfordshire
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Think it might be politicaly impossible in the current climate, Goverment keep cheap diesel for "Gin palace" owners but not for the rest of the populace in their cars.
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Lotus_John
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Reged: 17/11/2007
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Chris, do not forget that,
1. The government with backing from the RYA applied to the EU to keep the fuel derogation at the end of 2006, i.e., 6 PPL on red diesel.
2. The road fuel tax contributes to the upkeep of the road infrastructure.
3. The ‘fuel escalator’, which is due to increase the tax on road fuels again in October, is justified by Gov. because of the need to deter road use.
4. Leisure pilots achieved an increase of just 2 PPL to bring them to the EU minimum.
5. I believe that most people would see an increase in tax of 15 PPL to bring marine users to the EU minimum as a significant increase.
6. Governments do not always respond to popular public opinion, after all 4000 city traders are reputed to have received bonuses averaging 1 million+ in the current economic climate.
Go on write to your MP, write to the Chancellor; write to the RYA, from the size of your wake and fuel likely to cost £6.30 a gallon you have nothing to lose and certainly, nothing will change unless we make it..
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