LadyJessie
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second that trouville. I grew up sailing a Folkboat and they are amazing performance boats, still very difficult to beat today some 60 years after their initial design. However, 'modern' people used to the caravan type of cruisers will find them cramped though. If you are looking for that adrenaline rush type of sailing performance and at the same time a yacht than can take you around the world safely; it will still be very difficult to find a boat that can better the Folkboat. Just don't expect a lot of modcons.
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brittep
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Wow, I think you have absolutly hit the nail on the head, The sweden 38 looks perfect I have long had a love affair with sweden yachts but not the wallet to match, though this does fall in to my budget (just) Also the Grand Soleil 38 and 42 look like really viable options. Does anyone have any experience spending time sailing and living on these boats as I have never real come that close to them? what is their build quality like, how do they sail, what sort of stowage do they have, any other comments about them? thanks for this folks I am really pumped now
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LadyJessie
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I have sailed several Sweden 38 and can report that they are wonderful: very fast even in light winds but also very stable and seaworthy in heavy weather. A 'go anywhere fast yacht'. A real dream yacht. They are built for long term cruising and hence have a lot of stowage room, but that will make them feel somewhat 'cramped' if you come from a Ben/Jen/Bav type of boat where max cabin volume is the design criteria.
In summary; go for a Sweden! One of the true great performance sailboats. (and yes I am partial.... I do own one.)
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blue_elephant
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Loc: southern spain
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Be careful of buying older boats if intending to use it for the rigours of long term cruising. You could well spend 70k putting such a boat into good order. Rig, sails, rudder bearings, engine, gearbox, water system, electronics. All can fail unexpectedly (expectedly). Small - simple - new are factors that can reduce frustration. Read other threads to be convinced that if it can go wrong - it will.
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Jock89
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"Be careful of buying older boats if intending to use it for the rigours of long term cruising. You could well spend 70k putting such a boat into good order. Rig, sails, rudder bearings, engine, gearbox, water system, electronics."
Please, tell me all about it.! 
I think if you went for the likes of a Sweden you'd have a good chance of recovering a fair portion of your outlay when you sold her.?
Spending that amount on an old-ish & much less salubrious boat would be crazy. 
Jock
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LadyJessie
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You are absolutely correct. Even a 20-30 year old Sweden or Nautor/Swan will still have a build quality that is solid. That is why they are somewhat more expensive to buy; you get what you pay for and you will have significantly fewer maintenance issues than if you bought a lesser yacht. Everything on these boats are just built to the highest standards possible and built to last; as opposed to built to a price where mediocre materials might do.
BTW, this is not a putdown on the Bav/Ben/Jen type of boats. They are built for a different purpose; Med vacation boats and they are excellent boats for that and a lot of boat for your money. They are just not designed for cruising the world and racing the occasional regatta's, that is not what their owners' wants to do. Horses for courses, or whatever that English expression is....
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