AlistairM
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I am intending to turn over my 12ft nat12 dinghy (vintage for thems thats interested) to get started on the bottom. Can the panel recommend a method or an easy way to man handle this, and other than ensuring it sits on the tyres ok and there is no danger of falling, is there anything else to look out for.
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alan006
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The only way I know is to get a group of chaps round it and manhandle it. You could make a jig to roll it round on, but it seems a lot of work to achieve the same result.
Hope this helps.
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Old_Salt
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Yep must agree half a dozen strong blokes will do the job with ease.
Just make sure you have the drinks in.
PS get them to turn the boat over first thought.  
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monkey_trousers
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remove the mast first
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Aja
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"The National 12 is a two person, two sail racing dinghy. With a main & jib area of around 10.4 sq meters (8.4m2 measured) and a light hull, 78Kg including mast and centre-board, there is ample power to drive the fast and responsive hull."
Half a dozen strong men is a bit of overkill!!!
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Jonny_H
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Agreed, we roll GP14's Enterprises, Int 14's etc etc with two people - one at either end.
Its useful to have some carpet on the floor to rest it on half way over (unless you have very bendy arms!).
They will usually sit on their trolley ok when turned over, but its sometimes easier to take them off the trolley to turn them as you tend to trip over it! Easiest way to get it off the trolley is to lift the bow up and pull the trolley out forwards (can do this single handed or two people is eaiser).
Good luck
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oldharry
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"Half a dozen strong men is a bit of overkill!!"
Absolutely. Half a dozen strong men can pick up a Mini - so an N12 at 78kg they could do with one hand in pocket.
1 each end is all it needs, with ideally someone just to steady it as it comes over, 2 each end would walk away with it....
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Old_Salt
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But surly to set it safely on it's mast you will need at least to stand on two blokes shoulders. 
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""Half a dozen strong men is a bit of overkill!!""
Yep I asked for that I should have read the request properly.
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LakeSailor
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Two men easy. I turned my Heron this way during restoration. I found putting it on trestles made working much easier, and you could still get inside by crawling underneath.
Two of us can (just) turn my 13ft clinker dinghy which must weigh a fair bit more than your boat. In fact on a launch trolley it weighed 158 Kgs so I guess it weighs 130 Kgs. With a clinker dinghy you have to becareful not to stress the ribs as you roll it as that's when they crack.
So never empty rainwater out of a clinker boat by rolling it.
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oldharry
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No - just a couple of step ladders will do it.....
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LakeSailor
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Good grief. Just looked at the website. It says they mustn't weigh more than 190lbs (86Kgs) but have you seen how many people have designed version?
http://www.national12.org/boats/index.php?action=list_designs
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B175Chris
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If you can't find two strong men, get three weak ones.
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Clifford_Pope
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I got an Enterprise down from the car roof rack single-handed without any difficulty.
Just spread car tyres on the ground and roll it over.
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AlistairM
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Hmm praps I shouldnt have asked a silly question, but I was just making sure.
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LakeSailor
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Not silly.
Silly is when you realise you should have had help and you've broken something. 
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