John_Lilley
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Reged: 30/05/2001
Posts: 116
Loc: West Dorset
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As others say..how long is a piece of string. I surveyed a Buchanan 36 built in 1964 a few years ago which needed work & to my astonishment the boat was subsequently sold and completely restored but at a cost of £180,000 with all works done professionally. Perhaps that is the ultimate expense.....the purchase price was almost irrelevant at that point.
However, there is a big leap from a plank or two to this extent, and it could be said that any timber boat could have a fortune spent on it..but keep perspective on what is important and what is improvement without real need. John Lilley
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LittleShip
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Reged: 21/07/2003
Posts: 2824
Loc: In the water .... most of the ...
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I spent 3 years rescuing mine (motor boat) I spent £30,000 in total and I did all the work.
No real way to give an estimate other than it will be much more than you plan
Tom
-------------------- I wish I'd been born rich instead of good looking ?
Edited by LittleShip (29/05/2008 19:03)
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PyroJames
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Reged: 09/08/2002
Posts: 1066
Loc: Cambridge
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I just spent 15k making sound a boat that was in the water, in commission but with quite alot of work required. Starting from one that hasn't been in for a long time will depend on lots of factors. How much is rotten? Has she been kept dry? If there appears to be some rot, there is likely to be a lot more you can't see.
I redecked my old 33 footer, which cost me aabout 6k, when I did all the work myself. With the new boat I had an apprentice boat builder do the work under my supervision, at a fraction of the cost of paying a professional yard. If I was taking on another project, I would go this route again. If you do want to consider this as a route, PM me for the boat builders details.
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anteak
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Reged: 28/01/2004
Posts: 1363
Loc: West Sussex
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Ball park figures are impossible as there are so many, many variables.
I have just bought a teak plank, 72" X 10" X 1" - £58.00 And that is at cost price to the boatyard.
-------------------- A man may fight for many things. His country, his friends, his principles, the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child. But personally, I'd mud wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sack of French porn. EB
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Roach1948
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Reged: 27/04/2006
Posts: 1069
Loc: London - Suffolk
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I am not even going to mention how much it has cost me to restore a 22fter - but it is tens of thousands.
Here are a few observations from my experience:
1. If you need a new engine, then add the cost of the engine again in your budget to cover things like controls, new tanks, pipes, connectors and exhaust system and making new beds.
2. Refitting the interior will just as long, if not longer than making the hull and deck sound. It is a highly skilled job if you want to do it right - just get the basics done and get her on the water and resign yourself to fitting out bits and pieces for the next few years, bit by bit.
3. The rig often gets left till last. Make sure you focus on this early (not just prior to launch like me) - and remember that new sails, rigging and rope alone can set you back thousands.
4. Dont underestimate the cost of tools, materials, covers, moving the yacht, builder's risks insurnace, and yard fees. Also every so often a power tools will die and need replacing at critical times!
I actually set up a boat bank account to keep things in check. This was was really useful in keeping me buying essentails rather than "what I think I need"
-------------------- Roach
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Niander
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Reged: 25/06/2003
Posts: 412
Loc: Outer hebrides
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Save a bit of cash with cheap power tools i find silverline exelent!
If the engine is no good get a nice inexpencive reliable seagull to get you going for the moment.....:)...!
arh maybe no good for the 35 foot...about 25 foot max.
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robstracey
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Reged: 27/04/2002
Posts: 325
Loc: North Shields, Tyne and Wear.
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It Doesnt matter, boats are a labour of love, which is priceless.
When i first started secondary school, i completely rebuilt a mirror dinghy from a total wreck to a thing of beauty, a gleaming dark green hull, varnished decks, every seam stripped and re-glassed, new hand made douglass fir spars, even a boom tent, and i did it on pocket money. The sacrifice i made was that i didnt eat school lunches for 3 months, and i had to walk home every day to save the bus fare.
If you want to do it, just do it, you'll find the cash if you really want to.
-------------------- Rob.
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