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Re: State of the River [Re: Cuchilo]
      #1877816 - 31/05/2008 22:38

From what i saw I cant see it being refloated anytime soon...

And yes that is a haunt for those who dont pay council tax..

That said I hope he has a bed for the night


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Re: State of the River [Re: Richard_Shead]
      #1877848 - 31/05/2008 23:40

Might nip down in the dingy tomorrow to see if i can lend a hand .

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Re: State of the River [Re: PMD]
      #1877999 - 01/06/2008 09:50

I'm begining to think that Health and safety is a big contributer to the Rivers problems. Most of the neglect is either due to Health and safety issues meaning it doesn't take place or makes it too expensive. At last years refurb of Days lock, a huge fenced no go zone had to be erected, a little hut to book people in and out, a hard hat area and dressing hut, all sorts of signs and safety kit everywhere, this must have cost the EA a fortune before they could have even start the little bit of repointing they had to do!
Also the shoals at Benson lock, I'm told that it has in fact been dredged 3 times this year, but everytime I go through I hit the shoal. The problem is that due to health and safety your not allowed to remove the material (a health hazard if left on the bank), they can only move it around on the river bed so of course it keeps coming back.
This problem is not just restricted to the EA, its Britain as a whole and one of the reasons nothing is manufactured here any more, go to China and see H&S they won't understand. We used to be shafted by well meaning Trade Unions but now the same metaltily works for the H&S executive. What we need to do is prove that a poorly maintained river is bad for our Health and sue the EA


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Re: State of the River [Re: Chris_d]
      #1878203 - 01/06/2008 14:31

I'm sure the widow of the Shiplake lockkeeper who died in '82 is quite sad that 'Elf & Safety wasn't really around in those days to prevent her husband from drowning - no lifejackets, no harnesses, no guard rails on the weirs then. Oh yes, the river was so well run in the good old days!

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Re: State of the River [Re: Cuchilo]
      #1878515 - 01/06/2008 19:57

There is a dredger working between Monkey Island and the M4 bridge which is less than three feet in places. However they are dumping shingle a mile down stream about a 100yards above Wndsor Marina on the Marina side creating a beach of shingle which restricts the width of the river by at least 10 yards and any possibilty of mooring the vicinity.

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Re: State of the River [Re: PMD]
      #1878532 - 01/06/2008 20:14

Well said Peter! I agree on every single point. This is my third year on the Thames and it has deteriorated even in that time. I have been able to use my boat so little because of the stream that I am seriously considering going back to the canal system; and the floating encampments at Tesco Reading and above Shiplake have permanently taken over some of the best moorings. BW got tough with these people - why can't the EA do the same? What are we paying for?

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Re: State of the River [Re: old_man_of_the_river]
      #1878556 - 01/06/2008 20:34

Re old_man-of_the_river_ post
Having been in the construction industry all my life, I accept there is a place in todays society for Health & Safety. However because of its current mismangement by many authorities, Health & safety is constantly being used as a feeble excuse for organisations to absolve themselves of their normal duites. The EA is a classic case. You are deluding yourself if you think the management of the river today, is better than in the eighties/nineties.


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Re: State of the River [Re: Jaysay]
      #1878562 - 01/06/2008 20:38

Have to agree there , last year was rubbish and this year is going the same way . Its either raining or flooding so what has changed ? more rain or a new person saying how to get rid of the water ?

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Re: State of the River [Re: Cuchilo]
      #1878569 - 01/06/2008 20:43

Rain = Water
Lots of Rain = Lots of Water
Lots of Water = Flooding

How do you propose to stop it raining?

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Re: State of the River [Re: boatone]
      #1878587 - 01/06/2008 20:54

That is what i was asking . Has it rained more in the last two years or have the EA changed the way they get rid of the water ? It's always rained but that didnt used to put the river in flood / red boards .

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