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Re: State of the River [Re: old_man_of_the_river]
      #1878600 - 01/06/2008 21:01

Why do new users who post contentious replies not fill in their biogs?

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Re: State of the River [Re: if_only]
      #1878602 - 01/06/2008 21:02

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Why do new users who post contentious replies not fill in their biogs?




Is this a trick question ?

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Re: State of the River [Re: boatone]
      #1878613 - 01/06/2008 21:09

No an honest question, I just find it strange that the more contentious forum members (not only on the Thames Forum) don't fill in the biog that helps everyone judge where they are coming from e.g. vested interest etc. isn't the whole point about open, honest input?

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Re: State of the River [Re: if_only]
      #1878644 - 01/06/2008 21:27

My slightly facetious question was, shall we say, tongue in cheek?

I certainly get the impression that we have been joined by several new members who wish to keep their identities concealed from their employer?

I have no objection to them joining in, and adding to, debates and information relative to the Thames but I would personally NOT want the forum to become some sort of pseudo battleground for issues they need to resolve through their own HR procedures.

I also get the distinct feeling that we are long on emotion and short on facts which always makes for a poor analysis.

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Re: State of the River [Re: boatone]
      #1878715 - 01/06/2008 22:11

That was my point if we know the background we can take a balanced view. Time for a and watch the football.

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Re: State of the River [Re: PMD]
      #1878744 - 01/06/2008 22:33

I'm afraid I take issue with quite a few of the things you have to say.

However, in particular.....
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They must be absolutely naive and operating in a vacuum, if they cannot establish the real facts based on what everyone is writing in magazines, journals and the press.




God help us if you consider all that emotional tripe "facts".

and.....
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Nowadays the EA is solely reliant on canal boats coming onto the river from the canal system.




Would you like to explain this most peculiar statement?

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Re: State of the River [Re: if_only]
      #1878751 - 01/06/2008 22:38

Re comments re details of contributors etc., I hardly think this is the issue (you can get my details as they are posted!!) The real issue is that irrespective of how many posts have been "posted" by so called "newbies", I argue my points from 25 years experience on the river, not on how many posts I have made to this forum. It is a shame that when a serious post is sent to thisd forum, the subject is hijacked by so called regular contributors who want to comment on everything except the actual content of the original post.

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Re: State of the River [Re: boatone]
      #1878759 - 01/06/2008 22:44

As recently as today I was advised by a lock keeper,a person with more experince of the river than either you or I, that the EA would not exist solely with the income from cruisers. They are absolutely reliant on the "new" income derived from canal boats. If you do not agree to this "peculiar statement" as you call it, take issue with those with the knowledge, not with me!!!!

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Re: State of the River [Re: PMD]
      #1878774 - 01/06/2008 22:53

According to EA figures, the total income from craft registrations is only about 15% of total budget. This includes visitors licences and Gold Licences.
As far as I understand it, income from Gold Licences is retained by the issuing authority and not apportioned. i.e BW keep Gold License income from BW registered NB's and the EA keep any income from Gold Licences issued to Thames registered vessels.

To suggest as your informant puts it that :
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They are absolutely reliant on the "new" income derived from canal boats.



is laughable. The figures and documents I refer to are available on the EA website if you care to look for them.

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Re: State of the River [Re: PMD]
      #1878775 - 01/06/2008 22:54

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hijacked by so called regular contributors who want to comment on everything except the actual content of the original post.




Liveaboards and the flow of the river are both topics i have commented on and both subjects are covered in the post you made of your opinion on the state of the river .

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