byron
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That was my point if we know the background we can take a balanced view.
I was always taught that if something is anonymous then it should be ignored or at least taken with a large helping of salt. Ergo for me a nom de plume without a bio and I don't give too much credence to the posting.
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byron
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the subject is hijacked by so called regular contributors who want to comment on everything except the actual content of the original post.
This is common to all forums on all subjects and is a well known phenonemon called 'Thread Drift'
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PMD
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I've never mentioned gold licences. I was referrring to the annual EA canal boat licences which are increasing year on year
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boatone
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There is no such thing as an "EA Canal Boat Licence"
NB's are registered as powered launches just like cruisers. As far as I am aware the EA do not have any analysis of the number of NB's vis a vis cruisers.
Although the number of NB's actually registered on the Thames may be increasing slightly, I would bet that the majority of NB's we see on the Thames are visitors, either short term visitors licence, or Gold Licence holders who are primarily registered with BW.
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PMD
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I THINK IT WOULD BE SENSIBLE TO END THE DEBATE WITH YOURSELF. YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY ONLY INTENT ON PROLONGING THE ARGUMENT BY BEING PEDANTIC AND IRRELEVANT, AND NOT ABLE TO DISCUSS THE REAL ISSUES. SADLY FOR A "REGULAR" YOU APPEAR TO HAVE YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND
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Andrew_Fanner
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I'm inclined to agree on the narrowboats B1, all the craft I've seen on my last two trips upriver have been visitors tickets or Gold. Including two who rafted just behind my on Bath island. Yes, rafted!
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channelyacht
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To keep it on the original thread...
I grew up by the Thames at Marlow (1970s / 80s). In those days, it was still the Thames Conservancy who looked after things, including towpaths, vegetation, etc. One of my first summer jobs was working for the TC as it became the National Rivers Authority. Those who transferred kept the same standards, the managers knew the river and had come up from the ranks, and working for TC / NRA was a source of pride.
Then came the EA. At the same time, work to me away to sea and moving house to Somerset on the edge of the levels. I began to see the erosion of the NRAs good work as it became subsumed into the all knowing EA - the replacement of skilled locals with idiot graduates, the replacement of local knowledge with computer modelling. Budgets started being cut to fund a new HQ in Bristol, regional offices were refurbished whilst flood defence assets wilted.
This has continued apace, with the end result that last year's major flooding, most of which was entirely manageable if not preventable. which finally highlighted the appalling state of most of the EAs river and flood assets. The last year has seen a bit of window dressing, a lot of repeated studies and surveys, but bugger all actual work.
Meanwhile, the EA become more involved in prosecutions, enforcements, and money wasting schemes (for example they recently ordered a load of Mitsubishi L200s with winches for maintenance. The winches have now had to be taken off - apparently they hadn't been "crash tested" if there was an accident on the roads. That's not anecdotal - it came from the Mitsi main dealer doing the removal work!!
The EA is simply not "fit for purpose" - and now they're trying to get the power from the local drainage boards, which if it happens will be another disaster in the making.
The answer ? Go back to NRA structure, or event better, Thames Conservancy, River Severn Board, etc, run by people with years' knowledgeof the river.
But of course actually doing a good job does't fit within the ZanuLabour structure, does it?
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apollo
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Its always rained, just used to need two weeks of this to cause a red boards, now its two days. And I am NOT wearing rosy spectacles!!
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byron
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I THINK IT WOULD BE SENSIBLE TO END THE DEBATE WITH YOURSELF. YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY ONLY INTENT ON PROLONGING THE ARGUMENT BY BEING PEDANTIC AND IRRELEVANT, AND NOT ABLE TO DISCUSS THE REAL ISSUES. SADLY FOR A "REGULAR" YOU APPEAR TO HAVE YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND
No need to shout. 
Boatone (Tony) is a valuable contributor and a founding father of this Forum. I don't always agree with what he has to say but admire his tenacity and research that goes into his answers.
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apollo
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Peter
Totally agree on all points!
Another week last week dominated by Red Boards yet again, after only two days rain.
If the summer is screwed like last year, we will either move the boat elsewhere or sell it.
Mike
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