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pi_pi
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JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics
      #1877713 - 31/05/2008 20:29

I drove the 6 hour round trip to wish you all toi toi toi, and take some pics. Here are a few from the thousands taken by everyone on land and the spectator boat (cheers Colin!).
At rest:

















And lastly, Jester stocking up for the voyage:



Junks:









MO:






Starting line (ish):


Finally (at least from me!), the real jester:


Great day; looking forward to being part of it next time, cheers

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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: pi_pi]
      #1877776 - 31/05/2008 21:39

Great Pictures. Some of the boats look to be heavilly modified while others look fairly bog standard.

Good that they have some gentle weather for the start but they will probably be wishing they had more breeze to get them clear of the channel and out where they can relax a bit more.

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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: graham]
      #1877869 - 01/06/2008 00:20

Great pics. Some interesting boats.

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pi_pi
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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: graham]
      #1877974 - 01/06/2008 09:12

There was a great selection of boats, which was evidence of each skipper's approach to seamanship, single-handed sailing, and hard-earned experience. For example, Mingming (Roger Taylor's voyager) is heavily modified, considered by her skipper to be unsinkable (and I don't doubt it!). FASON, a Russian craft, was built by her skipper (who had sailed her non-stop for 21 days to reach Plymouth in time!). I personally found it interesting to see the different approaches to viewing positions (domes, raised cabins, pillbox lookouts, and standard spray hoods), and the selection of windvanes.
The most outstanding aspect, however, were the skippers themselves - a delightfully motley crew all bound by this great adventure ahead of them (and very lucky indeed to have support from family and friends, many of whom I met, and who were no doubt more nervous than the skippers themselves!).

PBO will be running a feature on it in the near future.


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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: pi_pi]
      #1878090 - 01/06/2008 11:28

Great pics Coro - I was hoping to be afloat to send them off but ended up working so your pics are just what I need to see how it went. Best of luck to all the entrants.

Steve

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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: pi_pi]
      #1878258 - 01/06/2008 15:51

I never considered my old Trident 24 to be a potential transatlantic yacht. Hope he makes it and proves me wrong.

[Edit]Just been Googling Jester 2008 and realise it is the Azores this year, anyhow still an impressive voyage for a sub 25' yacht.

Edited by jonjo (01/06/2008 15:59)


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moondancer
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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: jonjo]
      #1878367 - 01/06/2008 18:06

As an ex sonata owner, pretty impressed that someone is doing it in one! Very brave. Also see someone is doing it in a Virgo Voyager. Just as well there is no time limit.

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Jake_K
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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: moondancer]
      #1878473 - 01/06/2008 19:29

Hi Coro

Great pix - thanks for sharing them. Pity the weather was bit flat, but the light winds made the manoevuring at the start line less fraught!

Yes, a superb collection of boats, some heavily modified, others still pretty basic, but all the skippers had taken precautions ( if you know what I mean.) Rich harvest of material for PBO, and we've also shot enough footage for a closely edited 15-min film which I think you'll find entertaining. Jester has no chortage of characters!

The Russian boat ( actually one of two Russians present) belongs to Alexey Fedoruk, and that guy could write a book. The hull has been built up from an old wooden Dragon, and such was the shortage of chandlery that he turned out brass screws and piston hanks on a lathe in a (missile) factory where he was working!

He had sailed non-stop from St Petersburg (21 days) to get to the start, and was chuffed to bits to be living the dream of his heroes Blondie Halsar and Sir Francis Chichester.

Moondancer - you would have been impressed by Coronet! Good to see a Hunter Sonata with more gear ( including radar and a towed aquagen) than most 40ft yachts! Each system was triple backed up ( eg - even radar was backed up by AIS and a radar detector)
A humble little Trident 24 ( bought for £2,500) was also at the start. The owner - who was fairly new to cruising - had wisely spent his limited budget on electronics and new sails rather than paint for the decks.

A total of 40 boats started, only a couple a tad over 30ft (and along by invitiation.)

The cameraderie, joshing, mutual help and adoption of Alexey was terrific ( they renamed the rather austere 'RU 808' the 'Rusky Special' and he loves it!)

Should be a great trip for them all. Next one, of course, is in 2010 to Rhode Island. Hope I can get Pod finished by then.

Look out for a full report in PBO soon (hopefully with the full 'results' - and for our humble documentary film!)

Jake K


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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: pi_pi]
      #1878518 - 01/06/2008 19:59

Is there anywhere I can get daily updates on the race? Thanks

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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: swampthing]
      #1878581 - 01/06/2008 20:50

I'd also like to track progress... fascinating event... maybe one day. Anyway, the Jester website doesn't seem to give updates as far as I can see( HERE )

The Ocean Race Track site HERE (click on a boat name) gives a history of JC2006.

Mike Winter on 'Jacinta' looks like he's running a blog on JC2008 HERE

There's a Jester Yahoo discussion group, but you need to be a participating member to get in (fair enough) HERE

That's all I know

Good luck to all participants, I'd love to do something similar one day (boatless at the moment though ).


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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: Jake_K]
      #1878635 - 01/06/2008 21:24

Thanks for the update Jake. I think there where around 63 people who had their names down (me being one of them) so around starters is amazing.

Great to see people who I have only twice at the get togethers in January setting off. Feel like you know them.

I have struggled with decision not to go over the last couple of months. Now I realise how unprepared I am and that I made the right choice. Still difficult seeing them go and thinking I should be with them.

Looking forward to the PBO article and the film.

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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: swampthing]
      #1878734 - 01/06/2008 22:25

Keep your eye one the East coast forum Here , Alan (Pipedream) will be in contact with his brother semi-regularly, who will be posting updates on his trip, though he will obviously only be able to give limited coverage

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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: Debutante21Sixpence]
      #1878839 - 01/06/2008 23:52

As there is a lot of interest, and a great deal of photographs taken, I've set up an account on Photobucket for anyone interested in sharing their pics. I've already uploaded mine from this post.
Web address: http://s291.photobucket.com/albums/ll309/jesterchallenge08/
The login is: jesterchallenge08
The password is: jesterchallenge
Thought this might be a useful addition to the many CDs and emails promised to each other on the day!


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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived &amp; Pics [Re: Debutante21Sixpence]
      #1878992 - 02/06/2008 08:37

Another east coast entry John sailing Lucy can be monitored via www.ninjod.org . As and when he hits his spot button we plot their position and post.

If anyone has any other spot updates or position reports I will happily add them to the daily plot I currently run.


Regards,

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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: pi_pi]
      #1879080 - 02/06/2008 09:51

Bonjour
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As there is a lot of interest, and a great deal of photographs taken, I've set up an account on Photobucket for anyone interested in sharing their pics. I've already uploaded mine from this post.
Web address: http://s291.photobucket.com/albums/ll309/jesterchallenge08/

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I added a few more.
Merci Colin
An impressive fleet
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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: Boomshanka]
      #1879177 - 02/06/2008 10:52

Alan Charlton's (Centaurpipedream) progress in his Centaur is being put on the East Coast forum when he phones his brother with lat and long and progress report from time to time.

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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: MoodySabre]
      #1879188 - 02/06/2008 10:58

Making good passage on what little wind there is by the look of it...

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1871905/an/0/page/0#1871905


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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: Boomshanka]
      #1879869 - 02/06/2008 17:59

Ron westcott, a freelance web designer and electronics wiz ( his boat has more antenna than Jodrell Bank) told me he will be sending back a regular web update.

Go to: http://blog.mainsail.com/ron.westcott

Ron is sailing that compact little Sonata 23 'Coronet' with the radar powered by a towed aquagen! He even invested in an £80 petrol-powered generator from Screwfix with the mindset that even if it only lasts the one trip, it will act as an emergency battery charger.

We'll be doing a wash-up on PBO after the event, and have a co-erced reporter there. (Actually, she is the fiancee of 29-year-old Coastguard officer David Boughton). She is flying out to help him bring his elderly Cutlass 27 back again, and being a keen photographer, should give us some great pix.

Talking of which, we also had a freelancer there - have a look at www.flipix.com and click on his gallery. Both Jester events are there.

David's boat is a testiment to preparation - even simple things like attaching a light stick to his lifejacket, and fitting the boat out with dry-cell powered LED lights so he can cope with a complete power failure. He even has an old, out of date (but functional) 121.5 MHZ beacon in his grab bag to back up his latest PLB. The grab bag is covered with his (and the boats) details, written in indelible ink.

'A big problem with loss of boats at sea is identifying any wreckage' he said.

As with all the Jesters, each boat has some great ideas, and we'll bring them all to you soon.

Mac77 - I know what you mean about not being prepared. I'm going to take another, long hard look at my main hatch.....


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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: Jake_K]
      #1881061 - 03/06/2008 14:03

I actually looked at cornet when she was for sale at Burnham the year before last. I was put off by the amount of water in the internal lockers, and decided I wanted a lift keel. I suspect she has had a lot of work done on her since then.

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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: Boomshanka]
      #1883035 - 04/06/2008 19:53

My husband is on the "humble little trident" !
I have been following george jepps wetlog which updates his position about evry 20 mins to get a feel of where my hubby is likely to be. http://georgejepps.wordpress.com click on the "find me" link on the right hand side for an up to date position


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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: zozal]
      #1884723 - 06/06/2008 08:34

Bonjour
More views (Pipedream fan's club issue) are available on :
http://s291.photobucket.com/albums/ll309/jesterchallenge08/ photobucket Jesterchallenge08
Eric

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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: sterenn]
      #1884793 - 06/06/2008 09:26

can't get onto site. Is password jesterchallenge08 or something else?

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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: eastcoastbernie]
      #1884810 - 06/06/2008 09:31

sorry - sorted it now. password is jesterchallenge.

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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived &amp; Pics [Re: zozal]
      #1887521 - 08/06/2008 23:41

Hi Zozal, I was on the same Yatchmaster course as Mark, he was really looking forward to the Jester.
Please post up any news of his progress when you get it, thanks.

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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: DRANNIE]
      #1902832 - 21/06/2008 15:53

Hi Drannie

Perhaps it was you I met in the brokerage yard when I looked at Cornet. The water in the lockers was getting in through the starboard window (replaced and resolved), the port chainplate (a standard Sonata problem and still working on) and the Houdini forehatch (improved but not solved and hatch will be replaced).

Yes your right considerable work done on her since purchase and overall she performed very well in open water conditions. My 600 miles did, however, highlight some additional modifcations needed and some further experience needed for me - though the 600 miles itself massively improved the latter!

Already working on the further upgrades ready for the next challenge for Cornet.


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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: majron]
      #1903535 - 22/06/2008 17:22

Ron -

Your diary of the trip was interesting. Are you planning to write more on your experiences? If you do it will be interesting to hear more of how your boat performed, and the gear. You mentioned that you had problems with your self stearing - can you say more about this? Having cruised a Sonata for several years (mainly single handed) it is difficult to imagine the hull coping very well with self steering - especially off the wind. Also I found sleeping very hard on such a lively hull on long trips, and wonder if this was also something that made sleeping harder for you?


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Re: JAC08 - The Day Arrived & Pics [Re: Pye_End]
      #1904319 - 23/06/2008 12:41

Hi 'Pye-end'

Interesting to hear from some one else who has also sailed a Sonata singlehanded.

Overall my campaign suffered from completing my boat preparation too close to the event to do any signifiacnt long distance testing due to other pressures/commitments. The net effect of this was two fold.

Firstly whilst the boat preparation was 80%+ there and what I had done worked well and was complimented on in Plymouth there was still some areas of weakness and these would have been exposed on a longer trial. Overall the boat was well prepared and in good shape but not quite there.

Secondly I was insufficiently prepared relying on my 'lifelong' sailing experience which included previous singlehanded sailing but not on as longer passages as this. As a result I was well up to the 'technical' aspects of the voyage but not sufficiently experienced for the level of sleep deprivation I suffered in the first four days and the mental challenge the scale of which escalates with the lack of sleep.

The boat actually performed very well and gave me confidence in her. As you know a Sonata is not a boat tracks naturally and certainly is not a boat you could lash the tiller and balance the rig. The Seafeather self-steering, however, controlled the boat extremely well keeping in on track and working better and better the stronger the wind provided the sail area was 'appropriate'. The only problems were in very light winds when the Simrad Autohelm 220 was better and when close hauled in stronger breezes when a course 5 degrees plus more off wind had to set otherwise the self-steering would be caught out every now and then and the boat would tack into a hove-to position. Setting a course more off wind worked fine but, of course, meant even more ground lost to leeward on top of significant leeway when singlehanded due to the sail area either been too little or the boat being on it's ear with no one on the rail. The boat did do some minor broaching when going downwind in significant swell but nothing the self-steering couldn't catch though had the wind got stronger towing warps or a drogue would probably have been needed to control this.

I had two problems with the self-steering. Firstly the lower supports come out of their mountings - probably an installation/maitenance issue for me rather than a design problem. This may in part have initated the second more serious problem where the self-steering stopped working with the wind on one side of the vane with the servo blade just maxing out on one side and locking there. The problem appears to be a bent connecting rod between the vane and the servo blade plus the bracket that stops the vane going too far either side is bent. Other cause of this could have been the boat going backwards onto the servo blade when I was reefing or when the servo blade caught on the outboard twisted the wrong way and jammed (after that I took the outboard off). The designer, who is very helpful, has said to bring the unit and he will sort it out. Overall I am very impressed with the Seafeather. It is sensitive to the wind changes without excessive yawing and powerful enough to control a boat that doesn't easily track and one that can develop significant weather helm on the tillar.

I also had problems with the Autohelm in that I bought a new one but the mounting in the deck from the previous owner looked good so I left it and it came out on the second day! Not having a big enough drill to re-fit it I bolted two pieces of ply to the deck and drilled a hole just big enough for the 'sprigot' of the Autohelm and this got me home but the movement of the Autohelm was naturally elongating the hole and it wouldn't have lasted for every.

Overall the Autohelm was better in light winds (but used an 1 to 1.5 amps) and the Seafeather was better in moderate to strong winds.

On the issue of sleep it is very much about sleep management and handling the mental challenge when sleep deprived. I was unlucky to get four nights of no sleep. I only expected 1 or 2 plus I can't sleep in the daylight. At the end of the day there is no substitute for experience to cope with this and I feel so much more experienced as a result of my 600 miles and, indeed, coped much better coming back in through the Channel with a sleepless night. I will also try a 'blindfold' to see if I can get sleep during the day. The 'lively' movement of the Sonata didn't stop me sleeping once I could get some and I slept well on nights 5 and 6. However, the constant movement does add to the overall increase in tiredness.

Regarding equipment/boat prep as you have to be totally self-sufficent I try to build in duplicate systems. So for ship detection I had AIS receiver linked to the chartplotter (with alarm), CARD radar detection (with alarm) and radar though the latter had to used sparingly due to the power consumption. These worked well particularly CARD where I kept the ariel low so that it just triggered the alarm whne ships came with around 6 miles. The CARD is also very frugal on consumption. I gained sufficient confidence in these alarms that I was able to sleep later in the trip confident that they would wake me if anything big came close. I also had Seeme active radar reflector which worked well.

For power generation I had a solar panel, a towed generator (Aquagen4) and a petrol generator. The panel worked well producing a amp in sun but direct shadow is a killer and another time I would also have a panel I can move around the boat. The towed Aquagen was superb once the boat was doing over 3 1/2 knots. Above 4 knots and it produced all the power I needed. As a result the petrol generator wasn't tested. The Aquagen does have a little drag and is prone to collecting sea weed and plastic bags! Watching the charge produced tells you when to clear it.

On communications/sfaety alert I had an Eperb (McMurdo FastFind PLB) permanently on the harness plus a SPOT tracker and sat phone. The SPOT was very useful when I lost use of the sat phone for three days enabling me to send a position twice a day with an 'I'm OK message'. It worked perfectly.

For nav I had a charplotter (Standard Horizon 1000CP) which worked perfectly part from nearly an amp on power plus the back up of a handhelm GPS and a GPS function on the sat phone.

For safety I had jackstays running the length of the boat and usually clipped on when going into the cockpit in all but the lightest weather and always when working forward. I also had a set of jackstays running outisde of the stanchions as someone else pointed out that if you go over the side clipped on you end up suspended over the guardwires unable to do anything. With two lifelines you can clip the second one on the outside jackstay, release or cut the first one, and slide to the back of the boat where there is a boarding ladder.

The one system I couldn't duplicate was me!

Overall I got so much from the trip but it should have been a training run rather than the real thing. As a 'training run' I gained a huge amount of experience and learnt what else I need to do the boat and what further experience I need. I already have a lsit of work to do on the boat and look forward to the next challenge.


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