RECUSANT2
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Hi Folks,
I need to replace the matress in our double berth but I'm not sure what thickness/grade (soft, meduim or hard ) of foam would be suitable for liveaboard use. It's been sugested I buy a memory foam topper but I'm increasing the size of the original foam too so that's not an option on it's own.
I know it's a bit subjective but it would be helpful to know what everyone else finds comfy.
Cheers,
Crispin
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Ropy
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We went to IKEA, tried the foam bed, boughtthe one we liked then hacked 10cm off to fit.
one of the best things we did when we bought the boat.
And MUCH cheaper than buying foam off t'internet.
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Roy
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maxi77
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I agree with ropey, buy a standard unit and reduce in size to fit, in general though 4 inches foam with 2 inches memory foan does for us, but every one has slightly different preferences. Try before you buy if you can.
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Grehan
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IKEA recommended
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RECUSANT2
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Looks like a trip down the M11 to Edmonton then.
Great idea,
Cheers!
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eastcoastbernie
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Hi Crispin
I am something of a foam expert now. Can advise on various thicknesses and grades.
Foam grades are expressed XX/XXX. The first number is the density. The higher the number the greater the density and therefore better quality.
The second number refers to the softness. The higher the number the harder it is.
Examples:
30/160 medium quality, medium firm, good for sitting and sleeping
50/125 high quality, soft, good for sleeping
I have samples of loads of different foams which you could try out it you wanted. And I've got memory foam too, so you could see how that works.
Foam is cheaper if you get it in full sheets or half sheets and cut it to size. But if you don't fancy cutting it, most foam suppliers will cut to size for you.
Standard boat mattress 4" thick. Standard back rests 2" thick. 'Luxury mattress 5" thick. You've got plenty of room on your boat so you could easily go for 5" foam.
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LordMacDonald
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My Wife and I are also looking into relpacing our mattress.
We were looking at this http://www.marinebedding.com/index.php
Has anybody else got experience of this type of mattress.
I like the idea of springs rather than foam, thinking is that air would sirculate better and help keep the underside dryer. also using slats of some sort.
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BrendanS
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One of the most frequently recommended purchased items on ybw over the years are IKEA slats, which you can simply cut to size, and do improve breathability under the mattress.
Memory foam topper is also excellent.
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Grehan
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I think the problems with sprung mattresses on boats are likely to be (a) boat bunks are often odd shapes and sizes and (b) would the springs not rust? ***
IKEA is great for these kinds of things - lots of variety of foam formulations and thicknesses, and sizes, and cheap so no second thoughts about getting the big stanley knife out for some surgery. And good quality too, in our experience. The covers are fairly easy to amend too. Finally, as Brendan says, the slats - also a really good, yet cheap, product - have been highly recommended over the years here.
sweet dreamzzzzzz
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ok, I've looked at the link marine bedding website and obviously this is a pretty serious - high price? - concern. Luxury. Bespoke for shape. Springs probably won't rust. Ignore first para then. 
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RECUSANT2
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Thanks for the replies, and thanks to Bernie for explaining the grading system of foam!
I do find it disconcerting when being confronted with: "Well, what grade of ***** would that be sir" - As if I knew, now I do (for foam anyways) Cheers! 
I think a trip to Ikea is still on though, I like the idea of amendable covers and the slats too.
Cheers,
C.
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LordMacDonald
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There are a few companies offering to custom build a mattress, I havn't gone down the road of pricing yet, but as you hinted could be pricey.
Our boat is our home so we thought why skrimp on our bed, current bed is foam with a topper and we have been very comfortable but the foam is old now and should be replaced, hence the looking around to see what is on offer.
As previous threads have comented Slats, foam and topper are pretty hard to beat.
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SirSnoozalot
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Interesting subject matter. A good few boats I have looked at are very spartan in their upholstery - a bit like caravans. Very thin cushions OK for weekending but not really comfortable enough to match the sofa or bed at home.
I've just pulled all the cushions off our (very comfy) settee at home, to see that they are made of foam (no springs). Beneath, however, is a lattice of material straps which give added "bottom absorption"
Can this be replicated on the boat I wonder? Or, alternatively, should we use a thicker, better quality of foam?
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SirSnoozalot
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Hmmmmmmm. Just had another thought. Don't need the furniture when the house is sold, so can I cannibalise the household stuff to improve the comfiness of the boat. Eureka!
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Grehan
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Where will the coffee table and the welsh dresser fit in, I wonder?
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Grehan
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sorry, Welsh.
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SirSnoozalot
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The coffee table will need to go in front of the setee, so you have something to bang your knee on (and say B****) when the ARPA alarm goes off and you run to see which precise Monrovian registered Bulk Carrier is about to sink you. (Thought that was obvious!)
Don't have a Welsh Dresser. Once had a Kiwi stripper though.
Couple of problems I see, is the fishtank, and getting the settee down the companionway. Oh yeah, and whether the pontoon will take the axle weight of the removals truck.
PS. Nice boat. Love the joystick control. First time I've seen that.
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jordanbasset
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Good info, I never even suspected that such things were rated - thanks
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