roly_voya
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Reged: 05/02/2004
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Loc: Pembrokeshire Wales
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Don't carry spares for anything you could do without for a month
Do carry spares for anything you couldn't
Duplicate anything you could not manage without for a couple of days
And a third one fitted and ready to go for anything that could sink the boat
This is only theory as I have not yet been to the land where there are no chandlers
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Guapa
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Reged: 24/09/2003
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Loc: UK East Coast
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Anything to do with the autopilot.
As it's the only item you'll really need during the long bits.
Anything else can be bought or ordered once you get there.
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Jonny_H
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Reged: 15/08/2006
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Loc: Liveaboard - following the sun...
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Thanks very much for this guys.
We have spare rigging wire - I may get a staylok terminal (this is what all our rigging is made with so a spare may be useful).
Re the autopilot, the unit is only 2 years old, we have some spare contacts which according to the manufacturer are the most common failures, but we also have a Hydrovane (and I'm hoping to find a cheap tiller pilot to go with it) - so not too concerned on this point.
We do have jump leads, but we also have a battery parallel system with an emergency throw switch - so this should suffice.
I think a starter motor may be a good one to add to the list - along with some more epoxy putty.
We also have a half sheet of 3/4 inch marine ply and 3 pieces of 3mm 316 stainless (1ft x 2ft) - so hopefully that should be plenty to improvise with!
Well, out comes the old budget again then - starter motor, alternator and domestic water pump ...
Jonny
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whipper_snapper
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Reged: 09/08/2006
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Loc: Kenya
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That is a good way to look at it. Certainly you can spend a stupid amount of money on spares that you are unlikely to ever want.
I would not carry spare alternator or starter motor, but I am not dependent on the engine for electrical power. If I was, I would rather spend the money on breaking that dependency.
In general I guess my approach is to have backups for critical systems, such as self steering. Plus a good set of tools and 'raw materials' including odds and ends of rigging wire, sta-locks, wire clamps, rope (lots of rope), electrical wire, bits of wood, stainless, plastic drainpipe, araldite. True spares are pretty much limited to 'consumables' like oil, filters, belts etc.
Weighing the boat down with a ton of expensive (and fragile) kit seems foolish given that you can never know what you will need.
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Conachair
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Reged: 24/01/2004
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Loc: Canaries
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- I may get a staylok terminal (this is what all our rigging is made with so a spare may be useful).
I would definitely get a load of spare cones, fittings are reusable but cones aren't. I found Martins rigging very good for norseman, probably do stalok as well. info@martinsrigging.com
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michael_w
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Reged: 08/10/2005
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Loc: South London
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If you're going to the Caribbean a chandlery catalogue from Island Water World or Budget Marine is very handy. Order up the spares via SSB email. Sail to the appropriate island and they should be waiting for you.
West Marine and FedEx can be a lifesaver too.
A proper spares list with pictures makes ordering the funny bit of bent metal on the gearbox a thousand times easier.
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whipper_snapper
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Reged: 09/08/2006
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Loc: Kenya
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Order up the spares via SSB email. Sail to the appropriate island and they should be waiting for you.
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A proper spares list with pictures makes ordering the funny bit of bent metal on the gearbox a thousand times easier.
That's a good point. And if you can leave a list of model/serial numbers of all the kit with someone ashore, it makes it easier for them to use their initiative and deal with suppliers on your behalf.
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Jonny_H
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Reged: 15/08/2006
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Loc: Liveaboard - following the sun...
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if you can leave a list of model/serial numbers of all the kit with someone ashore, it makes it easier for them to use their initiative and deal with suppliers on your behalf.
Yes - we've been compiling a list of model numbers and serial numbers of all our kit and parts - we are leaving this with the chandler in Newcastle who is a family friend and has helped source lots of kit to date. Hopefully with their 'trade' contacts they should be able to source most things we need - just dependent on shipping then!
Jonny
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BobnLesley
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Reged: 01/12/2005
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Loc: Aground in Wensleydale for 200...
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All you need are duck tape (if it moves when it shouldn't) and WD40 (if it doesn't move and should)
Seriously though, you seem fairly well covered, the addition of some rigging wire/terminals and a spare starter motor as already suggested would be a worthwhile. Remove the existing starter and take it to a decent auto-electrician, he will match you up with a perfect alternative to the manufacturers 'marine' original at half the price (or get a recon one for a quarter!) same goes for alternators too.
If you think the space/risk balance is hard on a boat, we travelled overland by motorbike a few years back - now that is a challenge.
Just accept that the bits that break will be those you didn't buy and don't worry about it; if they're cheap & small, buy two when you do track the part down.
From our experience, the biggest 'breakdown' items seem to be engines - not serious, if you have a rag and stick and refridgerators - try to repair before the beer gets warm or civilised life will come to an end.
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reginaldon
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Reged: 20/02/2004
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Loc: kent
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No duct tape? Check out Shane Acton's Shrimpy for his inventory - quite comprehensive - well it got him right round plus a bit!
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