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MapisM
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Re: Stern Anchor [Re: jerryat]
      #1883429 - 04/06/2008 23:57

This year I'm starting my second decade of Med boating, and I'm currently based in Sardinia, but I cruised the Adriatic, Ionean, Thyrrenian and Ligurian seas.
I'm still missing the Spanish coasts and islands, is that the area you're referring to by chance?

Re. the kedge usage, I did guess that you generally use it to keep the boat bow to swell, but I was focusing on anchorages with the boat tied to the shore, where wagenaar said - and as I understood you agreed - that he uses the kedge and ties the bow to the shore (thus obviously keeping the stern more exposed to swell), whilst I always do the opposite.


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wagenaar
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Re: Stern Anchor [Re: MapisM]
      #1884341 - 05/06/2008 19:46

One reason not to put the stern towards shore was the presence of a self-steering. This meant you had to stay away quite a distance from shore and it would not be possible to step on it, but would have to use a dinghy to row ashore. Putting the bow towards the shore often made it possible to just jump on shore with a rope and tie it to a proper attaching point. I've done this in the Med, but also in Sweden and Finland.

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MapisM
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Re: Stern Anchor [Re: wagenaar]
      #1884535 - 05/06/2008 22:14

Aha. I didn't consider that - it's a problem I don't have.

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JamesFrance
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Re: Stern Anchor [Re: Klass]
      #1888303 - 09/06/2008 16:40

I have acquired an alloy FOBlight anchor suggested for far heavier boats than mine, together with a leaded rope which sits in a bag.

This seems to be popular with the French and very easy to use over the stern. I have not used it much yet but it seems a good idea and I have added some chain to stop chafing mainly.

I would be interested to hear opinions on this.

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Re: Stern Anchor [Re: JamesFrance]
      #1889177 - 10/06/2008 09:28

I'm like the other guy.
Have carried a second anchor for three yars all around the Med, and never used it once. Never.
Only now retain it as a spare for bower.
JOHN

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Roberto
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Re: Stern Anchor [Re: JamesFrance]
      #1889286 - 10/06/2008 10:45

Quote:

I have acquired an alloy FOBlight anchor
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I would be interested to hear opinions on this.




I have one too, like other light weight anchors (namely Fortress) when you drop it in the water it tends to "fly" a little but never found that too worrisome, if the rode is not pulled too quickly the anchor sets reasonably fast

I use it mainly as lunch hook, when I do not want to pull out the heavier anchor which needs windlass and stuff, with the light anchor I renewed with the pleasure of arriving and leaving an anchorage under sail alone (as I can easily handle the anchor plus its few metres of chain), no engine for windlass
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I never tested it in more than 25knots of wind (held well so far) and will probably never do as in stronger conditions or if we wish to spend a night at anchor we always use the heavy one.


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Carolwildbird
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Re: Stern Anchor [Re: JamesFrance]
      #1889380 - 10/06/2008 11:52

what's a "FOBlight" anchor? new one on me....

EDITED- ignore this post- just found details on google!

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wagenaar
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Re: Stern Anchor [Re: Roberto]
      #1891293 - 11/06/2008 18:11

To prevent the "flying" I put first a few meters of chain out of the bag , so it hang already outside the ship and then dropped the anchor. The chain pulled the anchor down much faster and there was not that much "flying".

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charles_reed
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Re: Stern Anchor [Re: MapisM]
      #1893781 - 13/06/2008 16:43

Happily we're not all alike.

My stern anchor is a Delta, mainly because it self-stows so well. It's on 25m of chain and 75m of octoplait.

It's been used quite frequently around the Med - Siracusa, Salerno two mention two most commonly.

That's because I tie-up bows-to (not every boat has a sugar-scoop stern) and the wind pilot is excessively vunerable.

My third is an old-fashioned Danforth, scarcely ever used, especially since it snared the cable between Gugh and St Agnes.


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Chris_Robb
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Re: Stern Anchor [Re: MapisM]
      #1893948 - 13/06/2008 19:40

Well - the wind might not be blowing in the same direction as the swell! in fact this is probably the most normal situation.

Mind you, a flat bottomed motor boat probably does not role around like a MOB (manckey old boat), so perhaps thats why you never needed to use a kedge.....


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