boatone
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One of the hazards of being out last week was created solely by ignorant/unthinking boaters themselves.
Why do they insist on not moving right up the lock laybys when there is oodles of room in front of them?
At both Boveney and Chertsey Locks, heading downriver, I was unnecessarily exposed to the pull of the weir stream just because waiting boats were being inconsiderate.
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Brayman
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I hope you moored in front of them, that's the best way for them to learn, because they then tend to come and ask why. 
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boatone
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I hope you moored in front of them, that's the best way for them to learn, because they then tend to come and ask why.
You're right, of course, but I do try to avoid confrontation 
At Chertsey I went right up and moored on the short section to starboard.
At Boveney I asked the locky to have words with the worst offender which he did.
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apollo
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Precisely what I did at Sunbury and boy did they complain....te hee 
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bradtarga34
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Drives me up the blimmin' wall as well, can't these people put themselves in the same situation and would theybe happy to hover waiting for the lock? Anyway's, if I see a space in front I have no problem in moving in front, and haven't had anyone come up and say anything to me. Obviously I still wait for my turn to go in, goes without saying.
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flashheart
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Common Sense is baffling the senses of alot of people these days
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byron
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I hope you moored in front of them, that's the best way for them to learn, because they then tend to come and ask why.
I hate doing that although I know you are right Ian. I just feel guilty, I know I'm not queue jumping but they don't. Having said that no one has ever challenged me.
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1Sid
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Hi
Hope I was not one of the "inconsiderates" last weekend. If so sincere apologies.
Have to say at some locks as a "newbie" and still learing the ropes, manoeuvring is not always too easy and I know that whilst first boat at some locks taking the first spot may lead to steerage problems, so have taken second slot a couple of times to give me more room to line up and not hit the lock! I will try to do better. Oh, I have had training, have the RYA Certificate and no collisions (yet!), so hopefully I'm not too much of a problem , at least not long term. Have to say I have been impressed at just how some fellows have moored into gaps between other boats, whereas I would have come in at the back. Was reassured though when I did manage such a mooring last weekend when the person I had been talking to in the previous lock (sailing on the river for "many"years" smaller vessel) had to abandon a space for lack of room. Have to say it was a pretty perfect mooring did not touch the bank, other boats! Pity about the state of the river, would like to get out more and practice. Best wishes
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boatone
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Thanks for a very gracious response, 1Sid, but the guys I'm complaining about were 3, 4 or more boat lengths back or left long gaps behind boat in front.
What often happens is they arrive with noone in sight behind them so dont think it matters. Then they fail to notice new arrivals or cant be bothered to move up "because the lock will be open in a minute".
Unfortunately, toodling around above the cut when the weir is running isnt much fun even for a minute in current (pun!) conditions and if I hold well back some other 'kind' person will overtake you and you're even further back in the queue.
Welcome anyway.
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apollo
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The funny thing with the guy at Sunbury was all the time he was spazzing out at me for going past him, more boats were moving in front of him!
Double Tee Hee!!
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Andrew_Fanner
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Upstream or downstream at Sunbury? I will admit that when I had a chemibog I would usually stop well up from the lcok to do a dunny run but still go through the lock if it opened. Also fair that folk unfamiliar with the geography may get confused with the bend.
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boatone
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I presume Mike is talking about the downstream end on this occasion.
Upstream at Sunbury is not such a problem as the cut is very long so you are well sheltered from the pull of the weir.
Downstream is easier anyway as the stream is pushing you down river rather than pulling you into the weir.
Downstream of Shepperton can be a problem in strong stream conditions as the current pushes you onto Nauticalia if you are not careful!
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Andrew_Fanner
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>>>
Downstream of Shepperton can be a problem in strong stream conditions as the current pushes you onto Nauticalia if you are not careful!
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Thats where I discovered the joy of twin engines and important facts about getting off a pontoon against current and wind during last year's "freak strong stream cionditions".
Its still awkward:-)
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Brayman
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Last year's "freak stream conditions" seem to be this year's norm!
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apollo
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Yep, starting to believe the Thames Awash web site stuff.
Maybe it is because the river is all silted up and therefore no capacity left.
It doesnt FEEL like we have had any more rain this year than any other year?
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Brayman
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No, Mike, the river is SELF-DREDGING.
The amount of water rushing through at the moment should give us good depths in the middle, trouble is it all piles up at the sides, T&K had to dredge their entrance last August and again earlier this year.
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apollo
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You actually believe that bull?
Trouble is it only self dredges to a depth of 3feet, I need 3feet6 to move.
How do they adjust the depth to self dredge??? Yeah right...
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No_Regrets
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My entire boat could sink in 3'6"
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Brayman
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Well I need 4' and do ok most of the time, oh except for mooring sometimes 
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boatone
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My entire boat could sink in 3'6"
Go on..........show me !
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Brayman
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No, not more Birchwood 25s on the bottom!!!!
Apollo's request for dredging will take on a whole new meaning.
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No_Regrets
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I'm not that good at these things, perhaps you could lead by example
Make sure you're still at the helm* though 
Your boat, obviously....
Here's one I prepared earlier however
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Now can anybody recommend any non-marking slippers?
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Andrew_Fanner
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Dredge out under Windsor Bridge, that will drop the water level so I don't need to drop the arch.
:-)
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