Roach1948
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I need to make some fiddle rails for a sideboard, the trouble is that they are quite small and I keep messing up using the corner round bit on the router – they are too small to clamp down and get a run on the router, so I have clamped the router to the bench and fed the wood in (wearing very thick gloves) – well I mess it up every time. The thing either bounces, or makes a gouge, or I ned up with a wavy contour. What is the way to contour these fiddly little rails? Is there a trick I am missing?
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Roach
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Billy_Mizzen
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Perhaps a router table?
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Cuchilo
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Clamp the fiddle beteen two points and support the router (fixed) above that . Then plunge down and turn the fiddle to make your cut .
Big version ......
sounds like a drill lathe made by wolf craft ? is just what you want , or i could knock them up for you unless you want thousands of them 
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Peeriemaa
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It seems to me that by the time you have set up the router etc, you could have finished the job, and derived more pleasure by using a sharp block plane, taking corners off just as you would round a spar. Absolutely guarantee keeping all of your finger tips as well.
Nick
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Cuchilo
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I assumed that the round over was to be in the centre of the work and the ends would be fixed to a rail , making a fiddle rail .
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Twisterowner
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Start with a wider piece of timber so you have more support for the router, rout the edge, then saw it off.
Instead of clamps use double-sided sticky tape.
If you can get to Horsham, may I suggest attending one of Ron Fox's 1-day router courses? Good value and you learn a lot.
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Roach1948
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Thanks chaps. I only have 3 to make so a router table is really OTT. I reckon I will go with Nicks suggestion and now that Roach is launched, I can do that aboard.
Twister - should have done that course a long time ago.....
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Roach
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Cuchilo
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I must be missing something then ? I assumed you wanted to turn the fiddles for the fiddle rails 
Ron Fox is master of the router ..... ish
I have seen him a few times and my ex used to call him Ronnie the router  God i miss her , she used to crease me up 
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meldrum
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might I suggest making larger deeper fiddles they may not be quite so aesthetically pleasing, but they will be of much more practical use at sea. Small fiddles aren,t really a lot of use. also a block plane and sanding might be a better way as unless the router tool you are using is of a large enough radius ie half the thickness of the fiddle you will always have difficulty achieving a decent finish.
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Roach1948
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Sorry Cuchilo, I mean fiddles alone and not rails - no wonder you got confused.
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Roach
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Cuchilo
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no wonder you got confused.
It doesnt take alot 
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anteak
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IBTC also do a router course. 3 days and about £350.00. However, you get you make your own quality router table with the materials provided.
Perhaps for the future?
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A man may fight for many things. His country, his friends, his principles, the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child. But personally, I'd mud wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sack of French porn. EB
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Twisterowner
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If you haven't much to do you may as well use a wooden moulding plane for rounding over. You can find these on eBay and second hand tool shops. When sharpened they give a good result and you can finish the job in less time than it needs to set-up the router.
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