Cuchilo
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She left Scotland around lunch time and is making her way to London  woooohooooo
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Ramage
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Very pretty.
What is she?
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Cuchilo
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Its a boat 
She has just turned up and been covered over for the night . A massive thanks to Ken for doing the towing , you are a star mate and it was great to meet you .
There is loads of history with her but i will go through that tomorrow . As far as i know she has been in storage pretty much since she was built around the mid 50's but as i said loads of info to read up on . woooooooohooooooooo
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MajorCatastrophe
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More pictures please. Lots more.
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AlistairR
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So my services weren.t needed after all!
And i was really looking forward to seeing her in the flesh.
She does look nice, I'll look forward to seeing all the pics of her in her rebuild.
Good luck.
Cheers
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Cuchilo
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Hi Al , not this time but thanks for the help you where willing to give 
A bit more history as i go through it ....
It was ordered to be built at the lower docks in Perth by Melville marine . She was then passed to Glasgow based Cameron and cambell where she was purchased by a Mr Larry Marshall ( from the 1 o clock gang )  The boat was only in the water a few times as Larry had taken a fall off the back of it so it was put into dry storage .
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Cuchilo
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MajorCatastrophe
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Let's see cabinet maker with a wooden boat.
Yes, all the boxes get ticked.
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Chrusty1
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I think she has a huge amount of potential, I came across this in my travels, don't know if you will get any useful tips from it, but I thought I would pass it on......
http://www.glen-l.com/submethd.html
If you look down the menu you will see that there is a piece about building a mahogony runabout.
Edited by Chrusty1 (08/06/2008 15:43)
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Cuchilo
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Thanks for the link , could come in handy but it seems all the structual parts are fine Barry came over today and we had a chat about what we are going to do with her or how far we are willing to go . Looking at the storage pictures of the fore deck there seems to of been some water damage so it has been rubbed back and revarnished and then stick on tape was added to redo the stripes . So we decided to go the whole hog with getting the outside right as all of the inside and structure seems for now to be fine .
In true male style we took her apart 
We got all the old varnish off the decks and found the trace lines of where the patterns had been painted on before . The plan was to get it back to bare timber to see if we wanted to replace the ply and inlay timber but as the deck is ok we have decided to keep it . As it is stored at my place i can mess around in the evenings filling pin holes and tarting up the deck ready for another sanding and then next weekend we can flip her over and start on her bum . Once that is done we can flip her back over and start on finishing the deck etc .
I was going to keep a log of the work on here but not sure if
1 Anyone is interested and
2 Should it be here or in classic
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Englander
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There's only one docks in Perth! Very pretty wee boat!
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MajorCatastrophe
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Should it be here or in classic
If you want anyone to see the progress, I'd post it on here. 
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BarryH
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I can't belive how patchy that deck looks, I'm still blowing chunks of it out of my nose! Maybe we should have had a go at trying to clean it up with oxalic. Though it doesn't look like that in the flesh the camera is playing tricks.....
You know that steering wheel I was talking about...........
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Cuchilo
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Oh no you havnt ordered it have you Thats still the linseed going off . The sun has just dropped over the houses so i have just covered her over for the night ......... and yes i told her how sexy she was and how good she is going to look and ......... That blonde girl walked past AGAIN  Got a nice smile from her this time
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BarryH
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Price of that wheel is about the same as the sheet of marine ply we need.....
She blew me a kiss last time, it was the bike leathers that did it, she must be into leather, well I'd like her to be into my leathers......
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Chrusty1
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Well I think there may be more experience to draw on in the classic forum, but, that may be matched by enthusiasm, on this forum.........Just a thought, I think she would look good with mahogony and boxwood on the decks, the boxwood taking the part as it were of the caulking, as per any number of classic launches....... What is the planking, is it ply of mahogony boards? The reason I ask, is because if they are mahogony boards, she would look lovely with the whole shooting match given many coats of varnish.
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Cuchilo
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It is a mahogony clinker ply construction , cuban i think . I have some cuban so will check in the morning . We did talk about letting in a maple veneer and if we where to replace the ply deck would probably have done it but as we are keeping this one i ( as i would be the one doing it ) dont want to risk messing it up . I think painting the lines on with some kind of jig to follow the contours of the boat and then varnishing over that would work but i havnt worked out how to do it yet 
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BarryH
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Found a picture of the Larry Marshall the original owner. Maybe we should get as much of its history as possible....
Larry Marshall is the chap 3rd from the left
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Chrusty1
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If quality materials were used, the chances are that it is Brazilian Mahogony, it is the most stable of all the Mahogonys, and much loved by traditional boat builders, the method for laying the planks on the deck is not all that difficult, and a simple cutting profile can be made by drawing it on to paper full size that you fixed to the deck, you can then measure and make alterations until the cows come home, because you are only drawing lines with a pencil??
Research as many photos of motor launches as you can, and see how it was done, you have the skills, all you need is the right information, so that you can apply them.
All this of course is just my opinion, but I would urge you to not be in a tearing hurry to get her in the water, a bit of time and thought, and you could have a very pretty little classic, that will also be worth a penny or two!
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Cuchilo
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Wise words on the research . My first thoughts where i know how to do it but i am not risking it on an old deck but maybe i am missing a trick . If it was new it would have been inlaid already but the only way i can see doing this one is to inlay veneer and cutting out the trenching by hand . We talked about this for most of the day , only stopping to look at the blond lady
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Chrusty1
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Think thicker than veneer, say 4-5mm thick, and boxwood strips, same thickness but suitable width, have a look at the classic launches, no need to chobble anything, a steaming box might be handy too. Come to think of it, 6mm thick would not be out of the way, much easier to sand to get it all smooth and level.
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Cuchilo
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The ply deck is only 9mm maybe less . They where built as race boats so i am told , had a 45HP outboard on the back 
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Chrusty1
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That's ok, the thin planking I have tried to describe will fix to it ok, well, as long as it isn't rotten?...Like I said, research all the boats of a similar style that you can, and that mahogony, really doesn't deserve to be covered in paint, on some boats it would be appropriate, but I feel that on yours ..............well she would look so nice all varnished and glowing in the sunshine. Just the job for the Thames!
The best of luck with her, I will be interested to see how you get on, and what you decide to do.
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Cuchilo
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I'm not sure if you are saying over plank the ply with solid timber or let solid timber into the ply ? There is no rot on the boat ....... well not any seen yet and dammmmm we have looked !
The thing with the deck is that the detailed lines where painted on to start with so this is in keeping with a boat that no one has really messed around with since it was built . If we start inlaying timber then we are messing with a history of a boat builder that built six of these run abouts . This one is number six of six . Bits and bobs can be changed but cutting into the deck or changing structual things would be a shame in my opinion as it's boating history . But thats just me maybe ?
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MichaelH
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That looks familiar ( I mean the steering wheel, which is identical). This was taken about 1963 and showed our fleet on Windermere. The lfejackets were fun. The engine was a 25hp Perkins and it was a pig. The boat was pretty though. Not quite to the standard of yours but still a tidy craft.
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Chrusty1
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Yes over plank, but you must do what you feel is right, we can all make suggestions, and give advice, but at the end of the day, it's how you feel that counts
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Cuchilo
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I think our one was supplied with a perkins as we have some paper work from them . You say it was a pig . Larry probably fell overboard trying to start it then
Ive just uploaded some pictures of her when she was in storage .
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Cuchilo
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I have just uncovered her to let the sun dry out the coat of boiled linseed oil and some black staining is grinning at me . Would Oxalic acid leave the area bleached and would i have to do the whole deck to stop this ?
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Andrew_Fanner
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Looks like the foredeck of a wooden sailing dinghy I used to own. Oxalic may work, I used Milton because I had some at the time.
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Cuchilo
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Does Milton also bleach the wood ? did you have to do the whole deck ?
I have just cut a bit of cuban to see if it matches ......
Not bad eh
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Cuchilo
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Started putting on some new rubbing strakes around the deck today , only cut them close as there is no point finishing the topsides untill we have sorted the hull . I started rubbing down the hull and i think it has been painted with antifoul undercoat or primer . It's that heavy looking metalic paint that when rubbed down sticks to your skin . A messy job but i think it all needs to come off as it's not a good base for a finish ....... unless anyone knows otherwise ?
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Cuchilo
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I finished the port side this evening and started on the stbd . It seems the timber used is Cuban Mahogany so no chance of getting any of that 
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Cuchilo
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