rrees
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Reged: 27/08/2002
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Loc: Sardinia and moving East
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We are moving on from the Western Med to Greece and have been Stern too the Key side now for 5 years in France, Spain, Italy and the various Inlands.
People seem to report that it is better to go Bow too in some of the smaller Greece Harbours due to rubble.
We have a long boarding ladder which allows us to have our Dingy attached to the back transom and then have the boarding ladder over it to step ashore.
This also kind of acts as a kind of large stern fender in case of emergencies.
So the rudder is then over 2 Meters away from the Key side
What are others thoughts
Regards
RR
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TigaWave
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I've been forced to go bow to in many Greek harbours, as they can be very shallow at the wall, and that was mainly in a Rival 38. You do have approach with care or go and look first.
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affinite
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Reged: 02/02/2005
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Loc: Me - Derby Boat - Greece
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I think with that sort of gap from stern to quay you will be fine in most greek harbours (keel depth permitting). I have about 1.5m from transom to end of my pasarelle and havent found it necessary to go bows to for 2 years. My boat is 10.5m loa and has a draft of 1.7m. Having said that I agree that it is wise to poke your nose in and check out the base of the quay first. I should of course practise what I preach ... 2 weeks ago, I found the last remaining berth in the little harbour at Parga and duly dropped the hook 3 boat lengths out and nearly reversed over a sunken fishing boat  ! - The sun was in my eyes I cried to try and hide my blushes! (The sunken boat has been there for a few years though so I should have remembered it)
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BobnLesley
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I think the key word in your post is 'smaller' Whilst we always moor-up bows to as we're long keeled, the vast majority of yachts go stern too; with a 2m passerelle you should be fine almost anywhere - just keep an eye on the Pilot book for warnings of any known depth/ballast issues.
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rrees
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Reged: 27/08/2002
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Loc: Sardinia and moving East
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Thanks
We are 10.4 and 1.53 but will look at checking with the dingy first it sounds
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jimbaerselman
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At that draft and length, it will be rare you need to worry about dross near the quay. Anyway, new quays have been built in many harbours, dredged to 3m alongside, so the issue is slowly disappearing . . . I still do bows to though. Partly for privacy, and partly it's easier than reversing in the boats I sail, especially in a brisk cross wind!
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Swagman
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Loc: Self UK. Boat Caribbean.
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Jim say it all.
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RichieNotSoRich
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It does not matter so much about your draft, On many harbour walls there is a lot of protruding concrete low down, just at the right height to hit your rudder. Be prepared for swell/wash from the Superfast ferries it is amazing how much swell can be created. So either stay well clear, or, if in doubt go bow to.
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Somerset
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Fully agree.Bows to and no dust blowing into the cockpit.
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